Members poomwah Posted January 18, 2008 Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 I've been watching some old music videos, and while watching some old live videos, I noticed that the tone of the bass was SO much different than the studio versions. Particularly on old kiss videos, and on thin lizzy. What are they doing with their sound that is giving them that growl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted January 18, 2008 Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 Get it to growl? Mine does it without me touching it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassgirl9 Posted January 18, 2008 Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 Extra gain would be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RIC N BACKER Posted January 18, 2008 Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 I've been watching some old music videos, and while watching some old live videos, I noticed that the tone of the bass was SO much different than the studio versions. Particularly on old kiss videos, and on thin lizzy. What are they doing with their sound that is giving them that growl? 10 or 12 inch speakers, a pick and lots of trebble is my guess. I know what you mean but havent really found the answer or that tone either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don MC Posted January 18, 2008 Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 Like this?herkkuperse.mp3 I miked a Fender Bassman head and a Hartke 4x10" cab. Cranked the pre. -DMC- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted January 18, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 18, 2008 A low midrange bump and playing at the edge of power section breakup defines growl to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 18, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 heres what I mean... listen to the difference between the studio and the live , I want to match the tone of the live onehttp://youtube.com/watch?v=wX7H2LFSA5M&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marxalot Posted January 18, 2008 Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 My warwick seems to do it naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 18, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 A low midrange bump and playing at the edge of power section breakup defines growl to me. power section breakup? I'm lost, LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 18, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 My warwick seems to do it naturally. how do you have your conrols set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted January 18, 2008 Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 Pbass + SVT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted January 18, 2008 Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 My warwick seems to do it naturally. My SB's do that naturally also, especially the older one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marxalot Posted January 18, 2008 Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 how do you have your conrols set? +2 on mids+2 on highs 70% to the rear p/u I am always messing with the controls though, that is usually my "default" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 18, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 My SB's do that naturally also, especially the older one. super bass, how are your controls set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted January 18, 2008 Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 Honestly, a lot of it comes from a split-coil or humbuching pickup. My Dean does it. my Pbass does it. My stingray did it (and my new one will as well) No Jazz has ever really done it quite as well. Kinda like the difference in sound you get between a Les Paul and a Strat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted January 18, 2008 Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 super bass, how are your controls set? Usually the bridge pickup 100% and the neck 70-80% with the rear pickup in series and the neck pickup in parallel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 18, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 so my bass might not be capable of getting that sound :[ don't know what kind of pickups I have. And I don't think I can turn one pickup on full and one partially, I'm pretty sure mine has just a blend knob, or a fader, or whatever you call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted January 18, 2008 Members Share Posted January 18, 2008 so my bass might not be capable of getting that sound :[ don't know what kind of pickups I have. And I don't think I can turn one pickup on full and one partially, I'm pretty sure mine has just a blend knob, or a fader, or whatever you call it. Pretty much the same thing with a blend pot. Turned fully one way it'd be one pickup, the other way it'd be the other pickup, in between it'd be a blend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Incubitabus Posted January 19, 2008 Members Share Posted January 19, 2008 heres what I mean... listen to the difference between the studio http://youtube.com/watch?v=ham6vFy8v2I&feature=relatedand the live , I want to match the tone of the live onehttp://youtube.com/watch?v=wX7H2LFSA5M&feature=related 8's or 10's in your speaker cabinet. A tube amplifier (sufficiently warmed up will help), with the mids and lows boosted (not maxed). Either internal or external overdrive (to push the tubes a little harder). A bass with Jazz pickups, and some darker, growling woods (Ash, Mahogany, etc for the body, maple neck and fretboard), with the bridge pickup as the primary. Play with a pick. Some of this is repeated, but this is the formula for THAT tone. Warwicks and other exotic wood basses can do the same tone, but they tend not to have the highs that that tone has. Edit: I just watched the video again, and hes using a P-Bass with a maple neck and rosewood fretboard. Its probably an ash or alder body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators isaac42 Posted January 19, 2008 Moderators Share Posted January 19, 2008 It didn't sound as though the lows were boosted to me. Not much in the way of lows at all in that sound. That works well in a live situation. Lows go everywhere, and get into everything. They get picked up by all of the mikes, and can be anywhere from in phase to completley out of phase, and anywhere in between. Precisions aren't famous for deep lows, anyway, nor is playing with a pick the best way to get them. Power section breakup is when the power output devices - the power tubes in a tube amp, or the output or power transistors in a solid state map - are just starting to clip. It tends to be a much more pleasing sound in a tube amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members REMUS Posted January 19, 2008 Members Share Posted January 19, 2008 Wouldn't a boost pedal help out with growl, maybe some subtle overdrive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted January 19, 2008 anything on a zoom 506 II that would work? I've got one thats just sitting here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hamer-Bass-Head Posted January 19, 2008 Members Share Posted January 19, 2008 Phil Lynott used to use the Acoustic 360/301 combo...sometimes with an ampeg b-15 amp section; I assume for the preamp section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted January 19, 2008 Members Share Posted January 19, 2008 anything on a zoom 506 II that would work? I've got one thats just sitting here I don't think that will do your tone any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members REMUS Posted January 19, 2008 Members Share Posted January 19, 2008 anything on a zoom 506 II that would work? I've got one thats just sitting here Try out all the settings and see what you can find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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