Members Jugghaid Posted February 13, 2008 Members Share Posted February 13, 2008 And the only reason for that is that the pendulum is swinging back. Bush was so far to the right, and such a terrible leader and representative for our country, that the public Is more inclined to swing to the left (not quite Kennedy Left, but more so than Kerry or Gore). Well, your opinions is simply that, just opion, so far as Bush being such a horrible leader. I may even share that opinion, but that's what it is. And I'm not sure iff you understand Kennedy much. He was DEFINITELY not more to the left than Kerry or Gore. Not even in the same ballpark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted February 13, 2008 Members Share Posted February 13, 2008 No, most have no idea. The funest thing I've seen over and over during this election cycle is "I'm for Ron Paul! ...or if not him, Obama!" You have to almost be a politcal imbecile to support that! When I took that poll in the "Who's your candidate" thread, I was closest to Paul and furthest awar from Obama. I don't know why people don't realize how they are completely polar opposites politically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Incubitabus Posted February 13, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 13, 2008 Well, your opinions is simply that, just opion, so far as Bush being such a horrible leader. I may even share that opinion, but that's what it is. And I'm not sure iff you understand Kennedy much. He was DEFINITELY not more to the left than Kerry or Gore. Not even in the same ballpark. Not JFK. The "I'm for alternative energy as long as I dont have to see the windmills from my beach house with a pair of binoculars" one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted February 13, 2008 Members Share Posted February 13, 2008 Not JFK. The "I'm for alternative energy as long as I dont have to see the windmills from my beach house with a pair of binoculars" one. Gotcha. Teddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Real MC Posted February 13, 2008 Members Share Posted February 13, 2008 I'd rather see Obama as president than Lady Macbitch There, fixed that for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dave Campbell Posted February 13, 2008 Members Share Posted February 13, 2008 Ron Paul has made it clear he's going to go the distance, and to be honest, I don't think he's so much concerned about actually being the president as furthering the movement. He's definitely started something, it's tangible. Unfortunately the media are pulling all kinds of stunts to throw wrenches in the gears for his campaign. On the other hand, I think enough people are scared {censored}less of Hillary AND McCain that Obama could be the upset in this race. And I think his campaign is pretty smart so far... talk in generalities, don't say anything that will give the electorate the creeps, and you'll do fine. Besides, he's got Oprah on his side. How many viewers does she have... like half the country?I'm not fooled by Obama, though. He's not actually anti-war. He grabs his ankles for AIPAC just as much as Hillary or McCain does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted February 13, 2008 Members Share Posted February 13, 2008 Ron Paul has made it clear he's going to go the distance, and to be honest, I don't think he's so much concerned about actually being the president as furthering the movement. He's definitely started something, it's tangible. . That's exactly his point. He told me so face to face when I met him a few weeks ago here in Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bass8987 Posted February 13, 2008 Members Share Posted February 13, 2008 That's exactly his point. He told me so face to face when I met him a few weeks ago here in Denver. You lucky bastage :mad: I would love to meet Dr. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted February 13, 2008 Members Share Posted February 13, 2008 You lucky bastage :mad: I would love to meet Dr. Paul Nice guy and very well spoken and intelligent. Got about 15 minutes with him and a couple other people at a meet and greet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ezstep Posted February 13, 2008 Members Share Posted February 13, 2008 Maybe people realise it and just want a change? But a vote for Hillary is a vote for change! No, wait, a vote for Obama is a vote for change! I mean, a vote for McCain is a vote for change! No, wait.....I am so confused! How come none of these guys and gals have actually "changed" anything, but they somehow represent "change" for our future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted February 13, 2008 Members Share Posted February 13, 2008 But a vote for Hillary is a vote for change! No, wait, a vote for Obama is a vote for change! I mean, a vote for McCain is a vote for change! No, wait.....I am so confused! How come none of these guys and gals have actually "changed" anything, but they somehow represent "change" for our future? The other question is: "Is it a change for the better or a change for the worse?" "Change" for the sake of change is not always good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted February 13, 2008 Members Share Posted February 13, 2008 Ron Paul has made it clear he's going to go the distance, and to be honest, I don't think he's so much concerned about actually being the president as furthering the movement. He's definitely started something, it's tangible. I respect that... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dave Campbell Posted February 14, 2008 Members Share Posted February 14, 2008 Somebody HAD to come along sooner or later. And you know what? There is just no WAY of knowing what's going to transpire between now and the RNC in Sept.John McCain could end up having a massive heart attack, or get busted by the media papparazzi with a hooker.I keep hearing he's broke. Not sure what that means anyway, as I was always of the opinion that if you were on the "team", then money was relatively easy to come by one way or another. Hillary reminds me of the robots in the Terminator movies. And I think more and more people are catching on. There's something very very wrong there. Look at her eyes, she's crazed. Obama, man he's a bit of a wildcard. All I'm saying is, this game is far from over. If anything I think the media need to be taken to task for their bull{censored}. Why the hell are paperless ballots still legal down there anyway?That issue should be number one, first and foremost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted February 14, 2008 Moderators Share Posted February 14, 2008 All I'm saying is, this game is far from over. I hear you, but don't believe you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dave Campbell Posted February 14, 2008 Members Share Posted February 14, 2008 I know, I know. I have moments... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dave Campbell Posted February 14, 2008 Members Share Posted February 14, 2008 Does anybody here know if Bloomberg is actually going to run as an independent?Or was that just a threat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted February 14, 2008 Moderators Share Posted February 14, 2008 From a political science perspective, the only reason to run as an independent is to give the election to the candidate furthest from your own views. Some independents are simply crazy, others do it to be spiteful, some to make a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cl0r0x70 Posted February 14, 2008 Members Share Posted February 14, 2008 But a vote for Hillary is a vote for change! Yeah? A change back to the OTHER political family that's been running the country for the last quarter century? I mean, a vote for McCain is a vote for change! Yeah? A republican lifer who declared the streets of Baghdad safe (if you're being escorted by 3 helicopters and a brigade of America's best.) No, wait, a vote for Obama is a vote for change! Do you know how much the conservatives are giddy over the opportunity to run in the South vs. a black guy with a Muslim name? But, talk about a change!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dave Campbell Posted February 14, 2008 Members Share Posted February 14, 2008 Obama is a Muslim name?I did not know that.Oooh that's a juicy card Hillary or McCain could play at any time.Or, let's suppose Obama ever did become president, the fact that future wars are most likely going to be middle east wars... you know how this stuff works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cl0r0x70 Posted February 14, 2008 Members Share Posted February 14, 2008 Obama is a Muslim name?I did not know that.Oooh that's a juicy card Hillary or McCain could play at any time.Or, let's suppose Obama ever did become president, the fact that future wars are most likely going to be middle east wars... you know how this stuff works. Full name: Barack Hussein Obama. I've already seen multiple news shows slip up and call him "Osama." You just can't make this stuff up. Good luck getting the Bubba vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cl0r0x70 Posted February 14, 2008 Members Share Posted February 14, 2008 By the way, if you want to have some fun, type Barack Hussein Obama into google. His name is already a hot issue, and he hasn't even won the Democratic primary yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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