Members Trauma_Luna Posted September 29, 2008 Members Share Posted September 29, 2008 Well, i live in a small city of the state of Sonora, near the cross boarder with the US. All the city's economy belongs to a mining Co. called ''Grupo Mexico'', which has been in strike for the past 14 months, that means that every person here is economically broken, including me and my family. im studing here in the ''Instituto Tecnologico Superior de Cananea'' the career of Industrial Engineer, and everything has been really {censored}ty with me in that school, for the only reason that i hate that career, so well, the city is dying, people has no culture, and theres no pleace to develop musically, and develop musically is everything i want in this life. So im thinking to move to the US in the next months, Tucson AZ to be exact. i told this to my father and he said ''Are you crazy!? US are in crisis right now, you are not going to do anything there that you are not doing here, specially because you are going to live Illegaly there'', well that seems to be a good argument, BUT i have had enough with this town, im really sick of this {censored}, lots of insecurity, nothing to do, theres no culture, mafia rules here, everything is controlled by the mafia, including the goverment, press and police... so what do you people who live there recommend me? to go or to stay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fingeringam Posted September 29, 2008 Members Share Posted September 29, 2008 if u really want to risk it, come to california.people i met that immigrated here 10-15 years ago that worked there ass off in construction/agriculture/landscaping have moved up in there companys and now are overseers working 3-5 hours a day and making 6 figure incomes granted NOTHING is going to be easy, your music WILL suffer, but if your willing to buckle down and work 10-12 hours a day for little pay, in the long run it will work out better than staying in a dieing town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members In Absentia Posted September 29, 2008 Members Share Posted September 29, 2008 If you are going to move here illegally, I'd recommend not coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guttermouth Posted September 29, 2008 Members Share Posted September 29, 2008 If you are going to move here illegally, I'd recommend not coming. +4 you'd be way better off in your own country with a degree than here illegally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ec437 Posted September 29, 2008 Members Share Posted September 29, 2008 +4you'd be way better off in your own country with a degree than here illegally. Yep. At the very least, get the degree, then come on over with a work permit. I'm sure we'd give one to a bilingual industrial engineer, and you'd make tons (TONS) more than if you just jump ship now for a job picking berries in Arizona. PLEASE, heed my advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ender_rpm Posted September 29, 2008 Members Share Posted September 29, 2008 Start the visa process now. With a degree, you should be able to get in fairly quickly after graduation. Your english is good enough (from what I've seen here) that you will be able to land a bi-lingual job in your field fairly quickly. Put your resume up on monster or hot jobs and you may be able to get sponsorship for an H1-B. And check back here, since there are enough of us from such wildly different areas of the country that we can give you good guidance on salaries, where to live, etc. I've been watching Mexico tear itself apart the last couple years, and have been wondering if a flood of "economic refugees" would start. Best fo luck ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Kashue Posted September 29, 2008 Members Share Posted September 29, 2008 Do you have any relatives in the US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted September 29, 2008 Members Share Posted September 29, 2008 Can you move to another part of Mexico that's better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fingeringam Posted September 29, 2008 Members Share Posted September 29, 2008 Can you move to another part of Mexico that's better? no such thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted September 29, 2008 Members Share Posted September 29, 2008 no such thing Do you live in Mexico too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SB900LE Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 Start the visa process now. With a degree, you should be able to get in fairly quickly after graduation. Your english is good enough (from what I've seen here) that you will be able to land a bi-lingual job in your field fairly quickly. Put your resume up on monster or hot jobs and you may be able to get sponsorship for an H1-B. And check back here, since there are enough of us from such wildly different areas of the country that we can give you good guidance on salaries, where to live, etc. +1 Get that degree now if you can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jrkman Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 I may be crazy and I don't want to sound rude. But the influx of illegal immigrants is straining our system right now. I can't blame you for wanting a better life. Please do it legally. The people on here who recommended getting the degree first have a good point. Not only that but if you have the degree Canada may be an option too. Another idea would be to work to clean up your own country. Maybe if the millions worked on creating a better govt. instead of just leaving, your country would improve rather than continue to be run by criminals. Whatever you decide to do I wish you the best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1tallbassguy Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 I went into Fry's Electronics yesterday, after the Bailout was not approved, and while the radio stations were all saying that the DOW was down more than 600 points. People just kept buying stuff as usual. I spent $14.00. People are not yet worried around here, but are a little uneasy about whats going to happen next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WillPlay4food Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 Here's an interesting graphic on the immigration process I recently found: http://www.reason.com/images/07cf533ddb1d06350cf1ddb5942ef5ad.jpg (The image is too large to display inline.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J-chot Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 if u really want to risk it, come to california.people i met that immigrated here 10-15 years ago that worked there ass off in construction/agriculture/landscaping have moved up in there companys and now are overseers working 3-5 hours a day and making 6 figure incomes ...and obama says the poor are getting poorer! HA! I love this {censored}. I love Mexican immigrants, I love hearing about people coming to America with the clothes on their back and making themselves a better life, to me that's what makes me so proud to be an American. sorry to get all corny:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JeffBass Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 Start the visa process now. With a degree, you should be able to get in fairly quickly after graduation. Your english is good enough (from what I've seen here) that you will be able to land a bi-lingual job in your field fairly quickly. Put your resume up on monster or hot jobs and you may be able to get sponsorship for an H1-B. And check back here, since there are enough of us from such wildly different areas of the country that we can give you good guidance on salaries, where to live, etc. I've been watching Mexico tear itself apart the last couple years, and have been wondering if a flood of "economic refugees" would start. Best fo luck ! Good advise. Actually the influx of illegals is going down as our economy falters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Emprov Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 Good advise. Actually the influx of illegals is going down as our economy falters.My father in law has one who works for him. He's a fantastic worker and he goes back and forth quite a bit. After the last time that he came back, he said that the next time he went home, he wouldn't be coming back. He was saying that it's getting more and more difficult to get into the States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members In Absentia Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 Here's an interesting graphic on the immigration process I recently found:http://www.reason.com/images/07cf533ddb1d06350cf1ddb5942ef5ad.jpg(The image is too large to display inline.) My wife is filling out their bull{censored} forms as I type this. Immigration is so {censored}ed up right now, that it doesn't surprise me we have such an illegal problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Kashue Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 Here's an interesting graphic on the immigration process I recently found:http://www.reason.com/images/07cf533ddb1d06350cf1ddb5942ef5ad.jpg(The image is too large to display inline.) It's a good point. Primarily the idea that there is no "line" that unskilled labor is skipping. The US needs unskilled labor, and I'm a firm proponent of legal immigration, but quite often people have no idea what the immigration process is like. I personally had a gross misconception based on the statistics and got a rude awakening when I investigated the process further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ender_rpm Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 It's a good point. Primarily the idea that there is no "line" that unskilled labor is skipping.The US needs unskilled labor, and I'm a firm proponent of illegal immigration, but quite often people have no idea what the immigration process is like.I personally had a gross misconception based on the statistics and got a rude awakening when I investigated the process further. Care to essplain this a bit more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Kashue Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 Care to essplain this a bit more? When I looked at the stats: 6,000,000 legal workers from Mexico, 250,000 naturalized every year, I concluded "well, if that many can work legally, how hard can it be?"... Answer: Really {censored}ing hard to impossible, depending on your skills. For instance, the biggest labor need met by illegal aliens is unskilled labor. However, the US immigration system is not set up to allow unskilled labor into the country. If you don't have a close relative in the country, you don't get in, period. Therefore the idea that this unskilled labor is "skipping the line", is nonsense. As is the idea that "if we just make it highly criminal to hire illegals, it will force the unskilled labor to enter legally"...Since for most of them, there is no way for them to enter legally under the current system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Trauma_Luna Posted September 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 Can you move to another part of Mexico that's better? I can also move to the capital of the state of Sonora, Hermosillo, but its the same {censored} than here but bigger, i would like to move to Chihuahua thats a very good place to live, if not the best, but iit is really far from here, i dont know ANYONE there, and i have never been there, i'd be living totally alone, thats a problem for me.. im starting to think more seriously this, the only thing i know i what to do now i going away from this town, still dont know where to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 Yes i have two aunts who i go to visit once in a month, so ill be staying with them in any case of moving to US. im not going to jump the board and run away from the border patrol, i cross legally everytime i go.. so thats not a problem, my two aunts are US citizen and they can get me an immigrant permision to live in the States, that takes like 5 years, but i can stay in the US while the process. I can also move to the capital of the state of Sonora, Hermosillo, but its the same {censored} than here but bigger, i would like to move to Chihuahua thats a very good place to live, if not the best, but iit is really far from here, i dont know ANYONE there, and i have never been there, i'd be living totally alone, thats a problem for me.. im starting to think more seriously this, the only thing i know i what to do now i going away from this town, still dont know where to go. Oh right. I think (as others have said) the best thing to do is finish your degree and then decide what to do. BTW, did you have that meeting with the producer yet, if so how'd it go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted September 30, 2008 Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 We would love to have another hard-working educated legal immigrant in this country. Adnd I persoanlly would welcome you with open arms and a cerveza!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Trauma_Luna Posted September 30, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 30, 2008 BTW, did you have that meeting with the producer yet, if so how'd it go? oh yeah!.. he said: ''im not giving you a contract, BUT im not kicking you out, i want to hear more and more of your music and later we will see what happened''he told me to stay sending him more and more music, he is interested to talk with my parents, and he wants asked me the profile of the band, i havent send him anything because we have not guitarrist yet, im playing the guitar parts with distorted bass, i hate it, and its a damn problem, we couldnt be able to finish any song because of that,... i told this to the producer, and he said ''no worries you have all the time you need, just don forget to send me your job'' , i would like to develop the band with this producer, but... not having a guitarrist, and that the drummer seems to not care so much about this really dissapoint me, this is one of the reasons why i want to go away from here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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