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good {censored}

 

 

WK, there are times I think you're off your rocker. This is not one of them.

 

Everyone is wrong at times. Few recognize how often they are wrong. I'm wrong daily. I try to not speak authoritatively when I could be wrong, but I'm even wrong in making that judgment call on myself at times.

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The U.S. media system has devolved into cliches and broad brushes, presenting opinions as fact, presenting bias as the headline, and the body of the story as the supporting evidence.


United we Stand, Divided we Fall.....


I'm truly sad at what I'm seeing today - so many people not willing to consider other viewpoints, not willing or able to admit what they don't know; seemingly attaining a degree of certainty, even smugness, based on their ability to recite some "facts" that have been presented in a bias way.


In this quest to be "right" - we have lost our ability to reason.


Intelligence is not a function of the facts that we retain, it's our ability to reach our OWN conclusions based on un-biased evidence; we are not now being presented with un-biased evidence, rather we are being assaulted with statistics used to support a pre-existing conclusion.


Why have we become so sure of ourselves, so unwilling to admit that we are "wrong"? It's not a question of wrong or right, but a question of openness, and willingness to consider that our pre-conceived notions may not be correct.


When we become emotional when discussing facts, we lose our objectivity; perhaps we should consider that the source of our facts is in fact appealing to our emotions and our ego?


I'm going to go play some more music now - it's good for the soul.


Peace, out.



Doesn't happen often, and we may see this same thing from different perpectives, but I completely agree with this. :)

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Okay, I'll play along since I don't really like either candidate, but like Palin better! :poke:


McCain's maverick-image bugs me
. He seems too quick to make knee jerk reactions to things and not think them through or consider counsel or look far enough down the road / proactive in his response or decisions.



I don't understand where this "maverick" {censored} comes from. It doesn't get any more establishment than the son of an Admiral schooled (well, sort of), at Annapolis.:confused:

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Remarkable events of the day:


1. McCain was booed by his own supporters

2. Palin was found to have abused her authorities as governor of the fine state of Alaska. So determined by a committee of 10 republicans and 4 democrats.

 

 

Well, of course they did! What else did you expect? The Republicans on that committee were those that Alaska's maverick governor took on and bested when cleaning up that town, and this is their revenge!

 

 

In my democratic household, 2 of the 3 of us liked McCain 10 years ago, and we don't recognize whomever this person is who's going around calling himself John McCain today. It's like McCain sold his soul to the devil and McCain is the rube standing around waiting for the devil to be fair and pay up.

 

 

I liked him eight years ago. Now, not so much.

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WK, there are times I think you're off your rocker. This is not one of them.


Everyone is wrong at times. Few recognize how often they are wrong. I'm wrong
daily
. I try to not speak authoritatively when I could be wrong, but I'm even wrong in making that judgment call on myself at times.



You and me both, ma bruthah.

Of course, I'm not wrong as often as you are... ;)

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I think things are getting WAY too negative in the campaign. This is BS that Obama will turn the USA into a socialist state. It is no more true to say McCain will bring on a Fascist state. We are ALL Americans, and both Republicans and Democrats have legal access to lead the people through a democratic process that though it has flaws, is still better than anything anywhere else in the world.

It saddens me when McCain's own supporters boo him because he won't play dirty. What a sad commentary. This is an election, not a wrestling match. In the past, our country has been able to split into two parties for elections, then come back together when there was a victor, and carry on as a nation.

We need to be careful we don't slip into the errors of history, where we are seemingly only able to see two choices: socialist or fascist. We are better than that. If Obama wins, this will still be the USA. And the same if McCain wins. Unless we the people insist that America is only TRULY America if OUR party wins, and ceases to exist if the other party wins. Then there is no hope.

The truth is, there are cyclical trends that WORK for the USA, and the trend is pointing toward having a Deomocrat president. McCain MAY win, but if he has to lower himself (and I am not giving Obama a pass on this, he needs to be careful as well) to win, that is NOT a good thing for our country.

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Remarkable events of the day:


1. McCain was booed by his own supporters



For defending Obama and stating he is a good human being and family man. Heaven forbid!!! :eek:

2. Palin was found to have abused her authorities as governor of the fine state of Alaska. So determined by a committee of 10 republicans and 4 democrats.



Of which many of those Alaska republicans are still mad at her for taking them on as well and busting the hell out of them for their corrupt activities. :facepalm:

And of course they found her as doing nothing illegal or overstepping her authority whatsoever. Because she didn't. She did show poor judgment regarding her brother-in-law according to some, but trust me when I tell you, I can find a whole lot more examples of bad judgement on the part of all 3 other Prez/VP candidates in the race.



and the world keeps on spinning.


If this is all they got on her, she's the squakiest clean Presidential/VP candidate ever.

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But I still ain't voting for no McCain, son...... I cain't do it!!!
:D

I'm having a hard time with it, too, but Obama/Pelosi/Reid is too much for me. Hey did you hear that Jimmy Carter thinks Bush's economic skills suck? Wow. The old dude must have selective amnesia and forgot why he was a one term POTUS. :D

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