Members MikeDelfino Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 Hello... a bass player friend of mine is asking me some difficult questions about rack equipment... can you help him?Here are his questions: "What do you think that is a MUST in a bass player's rack? Can you give me some advice on some rack equipment that could help me in live situations? And which is a good rack noise gate that you would advise?" Thanks in advance Marco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dDigitalPimp Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 1. tuner2. compressor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slapthefunkyfour Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 1. tuner2. compressor +1[/thread] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MikeDelfino Posted December 22, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 Can you specify some good products? My friend doesn't wanna end with some low quality things.. by the way thanks for the reply anyway he has already some equipment but he'd like some other good products... what's why i was talking in a generic way... he already has a compressor and an aphex 204 aural exciter big bottom, and he's interested in purchasing some other things, like some kind of DI, noise gate, high quality multifx rack... do you know anything of these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 The answer is "None", are a must. What's he trying to accomplish in his sound? Does he have to go rackmount? You can go pedals and obtain the same quality with less weight and hassle with size. Need mas info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 Quote:Originally Posted by dDigitalPimp 1. tuner2. compressor I disagree - a fair number of bassists - such as myself - don't care for using a compressor on their bass signal - I'd hardly call one a "must have"... I have what is *to me* the bare bassics in my bass amp rack: a head(T-Max), tuner(Korg DTR-2000), and a wireless receiver(XDR-95)... I wouldn't carry around a compressor, as I have no use for one - same thing with a noisegate, or pretty much anything that says Furman on it... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members y-o-y Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 1) preamp2) amplifier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slapthefunkyfour Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 Ok. If you MUST have something in the rack, a tuner and a compressor are the main things. I thought that is what the OP was asking for. Like everyone else, I feel that you don't need anything in a rack. Most of the time, I use a pedal tuner, and the X2 wireless with no effects. But there are times that rack equipment is helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MikeDelfino Posted December 22, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 In his rack he already has a ampeg Svt3-Pro head, an Aphex compressor, but he's even interested in a noisegate (like the dbx1074), a multifx (kinda like the Eventide Eclipse) and Tech 21 SansAmp RBI as a DI... is there something better of these products? He doesn't care the price... See you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitargod0dmw Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 In his rack he already has a ampeg Svt3-Pro head, an Aphex compressor, but he's even interested in a noisegate (like the dbx1074), a multifx (kinda like the Eventide Eclipse) and Tech 21 SansAmp RBI as a DI... is there something better of these products?He doesn't care the price...See you Why does he need a noisegate? Seriously. A multifx unit would be something personal for him to try out. I don't know many bassists that use a rack mount multi unit for their FX. With that said, Eventide makes a very nice product, but I have no idea if it plays well with a bass. Why not just use the DI on the back of his amp? Sounds to me like this guy just wants to spend some money, yet has no idea what he wants to do. Is he unhappy with his sound or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 If he needs that much tweaking, Step 1 is a different amp. I've had the 3-Pro a few times, and I barely made it by when I did have it as it was just a temp between units. With that amp you shouldn't need a noisegate. No need to spring for the RBI when you can just get the BDDI and do the same thing for your DI'ing needs. If you want multi-FX, get the new Line 6 M13 like I have. Not rackmount, but no real need. It does any and everything you could possibly want from an FX unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 1) preamp2) amplifier yup , that's it for me too but maybe a reverb / fx ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 i just use a rack to keep my head safefromdamage,nothing else really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MikeDelfino Posted December 22, 2008 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 Thank you for the reply, RockStarBassist! My friend needs a noisegate because he has many effects pedals that create a lot of noise and hissing... he wanted a solution for this too, and he thought of a noisegate... hey Poltergeist... what's that rack that you're talking about to keep your head safe? my friend knows about a thing called Furman that protects your equipment in case of blackout... what do you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 Thank you for the reply, RockStarBassist!My friend needs a noisegate because he has many effects pedals that create a lot of noise and hissing... he wanted a solution for this too, and he thought of a noisegate...hey Poltergeist... what's that rack that you're talking about to keep your head safe? my friend knows about a thing called Furman that protects your equipment in case of blackout... what do you use? Hmm, well I'd look more into a de-hisser or de-esser, is that maybe what they're called?If you're humming from the board, it sounds like you have a grounding or interconnect or power supply issue more than you need a noisegate. I'd isolate that problem before spending money on something that may or may not even fix your issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 I can't fathom having to play thru a noise gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 If he wants to spend money, why not upgrade from the lousy noisy pedals to decent pedals(such as units with true bypass)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 I can't fathom having to play thru a noise gate. Yeah, that's my deal... something else is amiss if you readily need that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 Yeah, that's my deal... something else is amiss if you readily need that. Yup , He needs to go through his rig and isolate noise , or bad power supply or cable , no reason he can't have a quiet board , unless there is a bad cable or supply or pedal . Fix that and no need for the bandaid ( noise gate ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitargod0dmw Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 what's that rack that you're talking about to keep your head safe? my friend knows about a thing called Furman that protects your equipment in case of blackout... what do you use? He's just talking about a regular rack case...like this. Sounds to me like you guys really need to do some more research before buying anything so you don't just waste a {censored} ton of money on useless crap that won't help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bleepo Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 The cheaper furman power conditioners are really just rackmountable power bars. You have to spend some coin to get ones that really protect and regulate voltage... Not really necessary in my eyes. My rack is my amp, a tuner, a compressor, and a spare preamp that is never used just to fill the hole. I'd replace it with a wireless if I didn't have the X2 wireless on my pedal board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 His compressor should have a gate built into it, or at least he could set it so that it gates the low-volume noise in the signal. That's what I do with my BBE MaxCom. I think he might be chasing something, but doesn't know what. He'll be much happier carrying around a lighter rack than he will with any extraneous {censored} he packs in there. As far as multi-effects rack units, unless he gets a real high end one, he's never going to be satisfied with the sounds. I don't know any bass player that uses the POD or similar Line6 units that really likes it for live applications.C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 I think he might be chasing something, but doesn't know what. He'll be much happier carrying around a lighter rack than he will with any extraneous {censored} he packs in there.. C7 But...his ego. What's his ego going to do with a smaller rack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 But...his ego. What's his ego going to do with a smaller rack? It will be spared, because he won't get caught struggling to carry it with both hands up a flight of stairs, or getting it into his car. I have a GK1001rbII and a BBE MaxCom in a 4-space rack bag, and that thing is kinda heavy. I can't imagine having a rack that weighs as much or more than my cab. *dodges snarky comments about hauling an SVT around* C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted December 22, 2008 Members Share Posted December 22, 2008 C7 Agreed 100% - and would add - atleast hauling the weight of an SVT head is worth the effort... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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