Members poomwah Posted January 18, 2009 Members Share Posted January 18, 2009 ok, as you know, I've got the 810 up for sale. I'm strongly thinking of putting the bx1200 head up for sale too.... I have a hartke 3500 that is my backup head, and I have an OLD carvin pro bass 300 that is a backup to that. So I don't need three amps. 350 watts of juice is plenty ... right? I mean, under what circumstance would 350 not be enough? I don't want to sell the 1200 then find out I should have kept it. I have a 410 and a 210 right now. So the 3500 with 6 10's and the probass 300 with 410 as a backup. that should be all I need right? if so, I can sell the bx1200 and buy another bass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members J the D Posted January 18, 2009 Members Share Posted January 18, 2009 I mean, under what circumstance would 350 not be enough? When you turn it up too loud. You have a finite amount of headroom. When you exceed that limit your sound quality begins to deteriorate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Optimus Prime Posted January 18, 2009 Members Share Posted January 18, 2009 I use an SVT in my bedroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members solderjunkie Posted January 18, 2009 Members Share Posted January 18, 2009 It depends on PA support. If I have to carry the room, I love having 600-700 watts on-tap and a cab that slays. My heavy-rig can liquify small children at ten paces. If you play spots with a good PA, you really are only using your rig as a monitor anyway... so how much monitor do you need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted January 18, 2009 Members Share Posted January 18, 2009 I use an SVT in my bedroom. So, inquiring minds want to know: how did it do in the great outdoors when dimed???:poke: - georgestrings j/k ya, dude... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 18, 2009 so since I have NO idea what kind of band or situation I'm going to get in, I should keep the 1200 just in case?I've been kicking the idea around of going with the 350 watt hartke into the 410 and getting a 200 watt hartke to go into the 210. OR a 200 watt hartke into the 410 and the 350 watt hartke into a 115. Just this crazy bi amp idea I've been having Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted January 18, 2009 Members Share Posted January 18, 2009 350W is not enough when you don't push enough speaker area with that 350W. Sure, headroom is nice, but speaker area is necessity when playing a gig in a loud setting. So...1st priority- is deciding how much speaker area you require2nd priority- is deciding how much additional (clean) headroom you want If I was in a band where 350W behind 6 tens wasn't enough, I'd be looking for a different band. Hearing is precious. That said, I'd use the highest power head(also being the newest) to push your rig for plenty of clean headroom...keeping the old Probass Carvin as your backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted January 18, 2009 Members Share Posted January 18, 2009 When you turn it up too loud. You have a finite amount of headroom. When you exceed that limit your sound quality begins to deteriorate. wrong. the more i turn my GK up the better it sounds. no breakup. at all. :love: i also play my GK 1001 in my bedroom. its overkill, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted January 18, 2009 Members Share Posted January 18, 2009 wrong. the more i turn my GK up the better it sounds. no breakup. at all. :love: i also play my GK 1001 in my bedroom. its overkill, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members nAmzrTakin Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 It depends on PA support. If I have to carry the room, I love having 600-700 watts on-tap and a cab that slays. My heavy-rig can liquify small children at ten paces. If you play spots with a good PA, you really are only using your rig as a monitor anyway... so how much monitor do you need? Bwahahahahahaahahahaha! I gotta sig that one :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willsellout Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 There is a point where your amp will break up. You saying that statement was wrong was what got you the Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 There is a point where your amp will break up. You saying that statement was wrong was what got you the Dan the GK (not the 800RB) but the rest of the series, are the amps that i've that sound the best, cleaner, at higher volumes, and the higher up you turn them the better they sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reverend179 Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 the GK (not the 800RB) but the rest of the series, are the amps that i've that sound the best, cleaner, at higher volumes, and the higher up you turn them the better they sound. Every amplifier has a limit, is his point. It's not like you can dime the amp and play as hard as you want and it won't break up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poltergeist Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 i know. sometimes i hit the strings really hard to make it distort that way, i never got any breakup with it except that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members basste Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 My 320 watts GK combo is sufficient, with his single 15", for any situation for monitoring me on stage. (that said, i never played on LARGE stage.. ) But for little to medium gig, i clearly hear myself; with a clean and clear sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members T. Alan Smith Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 i know. sometimes i hit the strings really hard to make it distort that way, i never got any breakup with it except that way. You know, just because you know how to work your gain doesn't mean physics doesn't apply. Your amp, like all others(including the GB1200 & Carvin B1500) will run out of headroom eventually. Your GK head is nice, but it doesn't have magical properties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members solderjunkie Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 Your GK head is nice, but it doesn't have magical properties. My old GK 800RB had magical properties... it was full of magic-smoke. I let that smoke out twice, in fact the second time it was accompanied by fire and blackened the paint on the wall behind it:thu: I left it at the bar, and never heard from it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassplayer7770 Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 I'm playing my Peavey Pro Bass 500 head through a 4 ohm 410 cab. The head's output is 350w @ 4 ohms. I played a smaller bar on Saturday night, and I used my rig to fill the room rather than using the DI through the PA, and I had the volume at around 5. Honestly, I may not have needed the Master that high if I had adjusted the Gain controls a bit higher. For most venues, I'm used to using the DI on my amp, so the amp only needs to cover the stage area. Personally, I think 350 watts should be plenty for any gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mike fitzwell Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 350W is not enough when you don't push enough speaker area with that 350W. Sure, headroom is nice, but speaker area is necessity when playing a gig in a loud setting. So... 1st priority- is deciding how much speaker area you require 2nd priority- is deciding how much additional (clean) headroom you want Read it. Learn it. Live it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yanikins Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 I'd keep the 1200 man. It kind of depends on what kind of bands/situations you play in, but i'm in a band with two guitarists (Mesa Triple Rectifier, Fender Stage Pro) and i've fried 2 Ashdown Mag600's in the last 4 months. You really need that headroom to get over loud guitarists (the drummer doesnt help either) without doing serious damage to your gear. I just got an SWR700 and the extra 125 watts makes so much difference. That and it actually HAS tone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yanikins Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 My old GK 800RB had magical properties... it was full of magic-smoke. I let that smoke out twice, in fact the second time it was accompanied by fire and blackened the paint on the wall behind it:thu:I left it at the bar, and never heard from it again. All amps should come with free fire:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bnyswonger Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 How on earth can any of US know how much amp is right for YOU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poomwah Posted January 19, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 How on earth can any of US know how much amp is right for YOU? you can't know which amp is right for me... noone asked you to decide what was right for me ... I just asked for information so I could make the best decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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