Members J. Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 Okay, outgoing President Jorge W. Bush has starting issuing pardons. Who will get them? So far, former Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean have gotten the treatment. To be fair, Bush just commuted their sentences, but at least they're out of prison. I would've preferred a full pardon, but a commutation is better than nothing. I wonder if he's going to pull and Bill Clinton quality pardons. It's hard for me to believe that he has any respect or credibility anymore, considered who he pardoned his last day in office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Kashue Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 Bush has already set a pace for pardons that is less than half that of Clinton or Reagan, and my expectation is that he'll continue that. Heck, he already withdrew a pardon because the guy was an ancillary campaign contributor, and he didn't want that to be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members lokidecat Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 Again. Bush has to ADMIT wrong doings to get a pardon. You really think dubya and his crime family are going to admit to it? the incoming president can't just say "okay you're pardoned for.. uh.. anything you might've done and have blanket immunity for any transgressions during your presidency." No. Bush has to say, "I started an illegal war. I did warrantless wiretapping. These are all the CRIMES I want to be pardoned for." Not happening. Double EDIT: I see now you were referring to what pardons Bush might do. Don't know. I was thinking about the Ford/Nixon situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 Again. Bush has to ADMIT wrong doings to get a pardon. You really think dubya and his crime family are going to admit to it? the incoming president can't just say "okay you're pardoned for.. uh.. anything you might've done and have blanket immunity for any transgressions during your presidency." No. Bush has to say, "I started an illegal war. I did warrantless wiretapping. These are all the CRIMES I want to be pardoned for." Not happening. EDIT: I see now you were referring to what pardons Bush might do. Don't know. I was thinking about the LBJ/Nixon situation. But we are proud that you stuck to your guns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lokidecat Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 But we are proud that you stuck to your guns! What's with you texas {censored}ers and guns?:poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 What's with you texas {censored}ers and guns?:poke: Well I have several guns and lots of kids so I have to concede the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members i_wanna_les_paul Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 Well I have several guns and lots of kids so I have to concede the point. With two sets of twins, some could say your numbers are misleading. But then, there's something about quality over quantity, too. Hmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mac_C Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 Again. Bush has to ADMIT wrong doings to get a pardon. You really think dubya and his crime family are going to admit to it? the incoming president can't just say "okay you're pardoned for.. uh.. anything you might've done and have blanket immunity for any transgressions during your presidency." No. Bush has to say, "I started an illegal war. I did warrantless wiretapping. These are all the CRIMES I want to be pardoned for." Not happening. EDIT: I see now you were referring to what pardons Bush might do. Don't know. I was thinking about the LBJ/Nixon situation. You mean the Nixon/Ford situation? Try not to be such a douche unless you get your info correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gonzobassman Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 I see now you were referring to what pardons Bush might do. Don't know. I was thinking about the LBJ/Nixon situation. Are you sure you don't mean the Nixon Ford situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 With two sets of twins, some could say your numbers are misleading. But then, there's something about quality over quantity, too. Hmm... For my faternals, you hit the tree hard enough, two eggs will fall. For my identicals, my swimmers are so strong, they cracked that egg in half when they hit it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gonzobassman Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 For my faternals, you hit the tree hard enough, two eggs will fall. For my identicals, my swimmers are so strong, they cracked that egg in half when they hit it! Now that is funny! I don't care who you are that is funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators isaac42 Posted January 19, 2009 Moderators Share Posted January 19, 2009 Again. Bush has to ADMIT wrong doings to get a pardon. You really think dubya and his crime family are going to admit to it? the incoming president can't just say "okay you're pardoned for.. uh.. anything you might've done and have blanket immunity for any transgressions during your presidency."No.Bush has to say, "I started an illegal war. I did warrantless wiretapping. These are all the CRIMES I want to be pardoned for."Not happening.EDIT:I see now you were referring to what pardons Bush might do. Don't know. I was thinking about the LBJ/Nixon situation. Does he? Did Nixon admit to any wrongdoing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrJoshua Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 I think it might be more accurate to say, he has to be ACCUSED of any wrongdoing. And not just by internet bloggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lokidecat Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 Are you sure you don't mean the Nixon Ford situation? I was born three years to the day Watergate was broken into (June 17th, 1975). So I'm a little hazy on that part. I think I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lokidecat Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 Does he? Did Nixon admit to any wrongdoing? Oh {censored}. You're right. I am wrong. Now, therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from July (January) 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974. That's from Ford's speech. Apparently they can issue blanket pardons. {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} {censored} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lokidecat Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 Try not to be such a douche unless you get your info correct. Lick my sack. Where in what I said was being a douche? Die in a fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FreestyleIntruder Posted January 19, 2009 Members Share Posted January 19, 2009 He should pardon Metallica for their crimes against humanity. Oh, wait, no he shouldn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mac_C Posted January 21, 2009 Members Share Posted January 21, 2009 Lick my sack. Where in what I said was being a douche? Die in a fire. Dude, great comeback! In all seriousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goofball Jones Posted January 21, 2009 Members Share Posted January 21, 2009 Just look at all the pardons that Truman and Ike did...both had over 1000 pardons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Perfessor Posted January 21, 2009 Members Share Posted January 21, 2009 Does he? Did Nixon admit to any wrongdoing? Did Clinton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danbuc Posted January 21, 2009 Members Share Posted January 21, 2009 Maybe Mr. Obama should go ahead and pardon most of his cabinet now... since he's hired mostly former Clintonites:thu: ...he could do a blanket - pre-emptive pardon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted January 21, 2009 CMS Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 The outgoing pardons are almost like that little bag of cheap toys you'd get at the end of your friend's 8th birthday party. A few kids whine, but mostly nobody says anything, and it's totally forgotten before you get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hi.flyer Posted January 21, 2009 Members Share Posted January 21, 2009 I'd accept a pardon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted January 21, 2009 CMS Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 I'd accept a pardon! It's like having a busty brunette ask you if you'd like sex, with no strings attached, and a nice breakfast afterwards. Who'd say no? (besides JM5). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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