Members Funkee1 Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Read it yerself!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ThudMaker Posted February 3, 2009 Moderators Share Posted February 3, 2009 Daschle needed to do so. Obama's statement was very well thought out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funkee1 Posted February 3, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 He's not the only one either. A few more of the folks with tax issues have withdrawn too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted February 3, 2009 CMS Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 Did the treasury sec'ty nominee with the missing tax returns withdraw as well? I haven't been following it the past week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ThudMaker Posted February 3, 2009 Moderators Share Posted February 3, 2009 Did the treasury sec'ty nominee with the missing tax returns withdraw as well? I haven't been following it the past week.I must've missed that, too. He had another minor White House pick withdraw, too. That one was over a $946 tax lien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chunky-b Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Several of his nominees, just like every president, has all kinds of skeletons coming out of the woodwork... http://www.cqpolitics.com/mobile/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000003022841 Gregg Voted to Kill Commerce Before He Agreed to Lead ItBy Jonathan Allen, CQ Staff President Obama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted February 3, 2009 CMS Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 You know, you'd think these people would know better. I remember years ago an attorney told me that he had to make absolutely certain that he NEVER bounced a check, because it was apparently a grievous breech of ethics for a lawyer to do so. This tax thing reminds me of this...how can you be IN the government and dependent on taxes to pay your salary and not make certain you've filed your returns?? Another question begs....why is it that the IRS didn't spot this? You'd think they would have someone looking at/for the returns of DC biggies. And for that matter, why is it that Obama can send hundreds to Alaska to dig up the dirt on Palin, yet he doesn't seem to be excercising nearly the same diligence in short-listing his advisors? This sort of embarrassment reflects on him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ThudMaker Posted February 3, 2009 Moderators Share Posted February 3, 2009 Gregg is interesting from the standpoint he wrote the initial bank bailout bill, IIRC. With all the loopholes the banks got around for using that money in unimportant and douchebaggery ways, I'm not sure why I want this guy hold a cabinet position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members collinwho Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 I didn't have any problems with Daschle's tax record. I can understand how a gift (even a strange one, like a car and driver) can be confusing and not recorded as income. The fact that he paid up in a timely manner when the error was pointed out shows me that is was probably an honest mistake. That being said, I did question the ethical issues concerning him being in charge of overseeing an area in which he had received a very large amount of special interest dollars over the past couple of years. Overall, I think he did the right thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted February 3, 2009 CMS Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 Overall, I think he did the right thing. It's that "public trust" issue. Compare with...oh, hell, what's that guy's name again...Blano, Blako, Blago...Blagovich?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ThudMaker Posted February 3, 2009 Moderators Share Posted February 3, 2009 I think it's funny that McCain got so much crap for "not properly vetting" Palin, yet here are all these crumdumbs with tax issues. Talk about not properly vetting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 I think it's funny that McCain got so much crap for "not properly vetting" Palin, yet here are all these crumdumbs with tax issues. Talk about not properly vetting. Are you saying it's easier to spot a tax evader than an idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Perfessor Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 And he didn't pay penalties, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 It's that "public trust" issue. Compare with...oh, hell, what's that guy's name again...Blano, Blako, Blago...Blagovich?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ThudMaker Posted February 3, 2009 Moderators Share Posted February 3, 2009 Are you saying it's easier to spot a tax evader than a mavericky hottie? Fixed that for you. It shouldn't be that difficult to ask your officials you want to be in important positions whether or not they've actually paid all their taxes or received sweetheart deals from mortgage companies, should it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Fixed that for you. It shouldn't be that difficult to ask your officials you want to be in important positions whether or not they've actually paid all their taxes or received sweetheart deals from mortgage companies, should it? I hear ya. Somebody checked though, or we wouldn't be having this conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted February 3, 2009 CMS Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 I hear ya. Somebody checked though, or we wouldn't be having this conversation. Yeah, Congress. That tells me it's being viewed as a game of "catch me if you can" by the candidates, and Obama. After all, he said he was disappointed in Daschle's withdrawal and didn't ask Gietner to withdraw. Why should we expect the same level of responsibility from our government as it expects of us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 Are you saying it's easier to spot a tax evader than an idiot? I think he's saying it's easier to spot someone who fell for the DNC spin on Palin's lack of intelligence than a tax evader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted February 3, 2009 CMS Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 I think he's saying it's easier to spot someone who fell for the DNC spin on Palin's lack of intelligence than a tax evader. It's even easier to spot a partisan lackey. Not that there are any in the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 It's even easier to spot a partisan lackey. Not that there are any in the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted February 3, 2009 Members Share Posted February 3, 2009 I think he's saying it's easier to spot someone who fell for the DNC spin on Palin's lack of intelligence than a tax evader. McCain fell for it too, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ezstep Posted February 4, 2009 Members Share Posted February 4, 2009 Daschle needed to do so. Obama's statement was very well thought out. Yeah, his writers did a decent job...but they are wrong. I couldn't honestly tell you one single, solitary positive thing Daschle has ever done in his career...but I can tell you that he was caught by the IRS for not paying taxes. And, I probably speak for the majority of Americans on that statement. He did the right thing, though. By withdrawing he is distancing himself for the current administration. Don't forget...Obama was part of the Congress that had 1/3 the approval rating as the Prez with the lowest approval rating in history...their approval rating was in the single digits at one time. He still has a lot to overcome. Choosing cronies with tax problems is not helping...good ol' boy system, indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted February 4, 2009 Members Share Posted February 4, 2009 You know, you'd think these people would know better. I remember years ago an attorney told me that he had to make absolutely certain that he NEVER bounced a check, because it was apparently a grievous breech of ethics for a lawyer to do so. This tax thing reminds me of this...how can you be IN the government and dependent on taxes to pay your salary and not make certain you've filed your returns?? Another question begs....why is it that the IRS didn't spot this? You'd think they would have someone looking at/for the returns of DC biggies. And for that matter, why is it that Obama can send hundreds to Alaska to dig up the dirt on Palin, yet he doesn't seem to be excercising nearly the same diligence in short-listing his advisors? This sort of embarrassment reflects on him as well. I collected from a congresswoman who bounced a metric ton of checks (about $5000 in a weekend) at a casino. She tried to give me the "Do you know who I am? I'll have your doors shut in 5 minutes." crap. I calmly told her "before she got down here with the locks I would have suit filed to make this a public record. Think the newspapers will get hold of that?" Her attorney "assistant" called me back and paid them all. Treble damages etc. Almost $17k when she was done. Some of these people just don't give a {censored} and think they can get away with anything because they hold a position of power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted February 4, 2009 Members Share Posted February 4, 2009 Yeah, his writers did a decent job...but they are wrong. I couldn't honestly tell you one single, solitary positive thing Daschle has ever done in his career...but I can tell you that he was caught by the IRS for not paying taxes. And, I probably speak for the majority of Americans on that statement. He did the right thing, though. By withdrawing he is distancing himself for the current administration. Don't forget...Obama was part of the Congress that had 1/3 the approval rating as the Prez with the lowest approval rating in history...their approval rating was in the single digits at one time. He still has a lot to overcome. Choosing cronies with tax problems is not helping...good ol' boy system, indeed. Hope and change. Hope and Change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members toolbar Posted February 4, 2009 Members Share Posted February 4, 2009 it makes me wonder what other skeletons are in his closet. the rangle rule By JOHN CARTERRangel: Got a free pass on tax penalties.Last updated: 3:00 amFebruary 2, 2009Posted: 2:53 amFebruary 2, 2009FOR decades, Texas lawyers have used the "Hobby Rule" to win the immediate release of clients arrested on DWI charges. American taxpayers now deserve similar protection under my proposed "Rangel Rule."First, the background: Longtime Texas Lt.-Gov Bill Hobby was locked up one night for driving under the influence, but immediately released when his attorney came down to point out the high status of the fellow.When news of this special treatment slipped out, the court tried to defend itself by saying it was standard procedure to release a suspect into the custody of an attorney - though everyone knew any regular DWI inmate would have been held for bond or trial.Ever since, Texas lawyers have been showing up to spring their inebriated clients by exercising this previously unknown "Hobby Rule." It's standard legal procedure to this day.American taxpayers could win the same get-out-of-jail-free pass, thanks to the ongoing legal saga of my friend and colleague, Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-Harlem), and new Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner.Chairman Rangel admitted on the floor of the House that he had for years failed to pay tax on rental income from his resort property in the Caribbean. He apologized for this "oversight" and agreed to pay his back taxes - but has paid no interest or penalties.Secretary Geithner admitted in his Senate confirmation hearings he had for years failed to pay taxes on his income from the International Monetary Fund, even though the IMF sent him checks and instructions to pay those taxes. He also called this an "oversight," has paid no penalties and faces no charges.As a former practicing attorney and a Texas state judge for two decades, I can tell you: If that was you or me, we'd be socked with penalties and interest many times the amount of the original tax. In a case like Geithner's, I suspect we'd likely face criminal charges as well.But Rep. Rangel is the powerful Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, which oversees the IRS. And Geithner is secretary of the treasury - the boss of the IRS. Just like Bill Hobby, these two high-status fellows have received a little different treatment than the common taxpayer.We either need to hold Chairman Rangel and Secretary Geithner fully accountable under the law - or we need a national "Hobby Rule" for taxpayers.Last week, I introduced the Rangel Rule Act of 2009 (HR 735). Under this bill, any US citizen who owes back taxes can pay them and automatically waive all interest and penalties by writing "Rangel Rule" on their return.I believe this would restore equal treatment for working Americans - and serve as an economic stimulus by restoring millions in pending IRS penalties and interests to the free-market economy.We all need to stay sober and pay our taxes. But if we fall short, we ought to be treated the same. In Texas, that means using the Hobby Rule after one too many. Across America, it should mean using "The Rangel Rule" after failing to pay the IRS.Rep. John Carter (R-Texas) is secretary of the House Republican Conference. love my texas politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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