Members BottomHeavyKate Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 Let me preface this by saying that I searched the forum and apparently the search function turned up NO THREADS with string buzz or fret buzz anywhere in the title or body.... I also read Kindness' set up thread again AND googled to see if I could find a quick answer.....no luck. I know there was a recent thread on this but I wasn't able to find it. Trust me - I tried. If there is buzzing only above the 12th fret....is that generally an issue of neck bow or bridge height? I'm assuming bridge height.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 There's too much relief in the neck, you need to tighten the truss rod slightly. EDIT: Oh btw, the search function is borked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BottomHeavyKate Posted February 11, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 There's too much relief in the neck, you need to tighten the truss rod slightly. Sweetness! Thank you my dear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LanEvo Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 If there is buzzing only above the 12th fret....is that generally an issue of neck bow or bridge height?Is this a bolt-on bass? If so, my money is on neck pitch (the angle of the neck relative to the body). If you have buzzing only at the top of the neck, that's a sign that the neck is tilted too far back. The solution would be to unbolt the neck and place a small shim at the top of the neck pocket to tip the headstock forward a few degrees. If it's a through-body or set neck, then you have bigger problems. All you can do in that case is back off (slacken) the truss rod a bit and hope that brings the neck back into position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 Sweetness! Thank you my dear! You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 anything from normal to usual seasonal neck adjustment needed but it could be a bridge saddle or a nut . so when you save above the 12th fret do you mean the 13th fret and beyond on 11th fret and lower ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jasper383 Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 There's too much relief in the neck, you need to tighten the truss rod slightly. EDIT: Oh btw, the search function is borked. Are all strings buzzing above the 12th fret? If so, this is quite likely it. Tighten the truss rod 1/8 (or less, even) at a time, let it settle in, and see if this is it. However--Won't a bass with too much neck bow start to buzz around the 7th or 8th fret? In my experience, it will. Only buzzing above the 12th fret might mean a high fret all the way across, or a hump in the neck near the body. Sorry if I have muddied the waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 Yes, it could mean a hump in the neck either... but I figure it's best for her to try see if she can sort it by "flattening" out the neck a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BottomHeavyKate Posted February 11, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 It's from the 13th fret upward... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LanEvo Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 Yes, it could mean a hump in the neck either...That's very unlikely with a bolt-on. The base of the neck is the strongest part and the least likely to develop a mysterious bow, hump, or twist. Again, smart money's on the neck pitch being off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 is this something that just developed ? It's not unusual for a fret to "lift" out , usually a bridge adjustment can do a quick fix if the frets are seated properly and well dressed , a neck shim is sometimes needed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BottomHeavyKate Posted February 11, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 is this something that just developed ? It's not unusual for a fret to "lift" out , usually a bridge adjustment can do a quick fix if the frets are seated properly and well dressed , a neck shim is sometimes needed . this is for the new bass I got yesterday. I didn't have time for a full set up so I dropped the saddles a bit. No buzzing from the nut to the 12th. I prefer lower action than what I was able to get so I'm thinking I'll drop in a shim tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 this is for the new bass I got yesterday. I didn't have time for a full set up so I dropped the saddles a bit. No buzzing from the nut to the 12th. I prefer lower action than what I was able to get so I'm thinking I'll drop in a shim tonight. it may be shimmed already if so take it out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BottomHeavyKate Posted February 11, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 it may be shimmed already if so take it out . excellent point what should I use as shim material? Paper? (I could always use old Magic cards like I did in the bridge of my accoustic guitar when I was 16 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 I find that using a business card from a recruitment agent you hate gives a great tone. It adds extra bite and agression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 business cards , wood veneer , sandpaper , something very thin for starters but my first guess is it's shimmed already and thats the problem . We'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flogger59 Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 I've had experience with people using box opener blades as shims. Don't do that. It'll leave a real nasty surprise for someone down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Super Bass Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 I've had experience with people using box opener blades as shims. Don't do that. It'll leave a real nasty surprise for someone down the road. Eeek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 excellent point what should I use as shim material? Paper? (I could always use old Magic cards like I did in the bridge of my accoustic guitar when I was 16 ) I've always used a cut up guitar picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members solderjunkie Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 I use my own business cards... it helps identify the bass if it's stolen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Perfessor Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 As you sight down the neck does it bend back or is it straight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted February 11, 2009 Moderators Share Posted February 11, 2009 For the love of god. You have too much relief in the neck. The truss rod nut needs to be tightened slightly - end of problem. This has nothing to do with neck pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BottomHeavyKate Posted February 11, 2009 Author Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 For the love of god. You have too much relief in the neck. The truss rod nut needs to be tightened slightly - end of problem. This has nothing to do with neck pitch. Now I'm giggling.... Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Kindness Posted February 11, 2009 Moderators Share Posted February 11, 2009 Now I'm giggling.... Thank you! If you go back and read the last two paragraphs of the second section of my setup thread (link in signature) you'll see where I address this issue. edit: I started writing a shimming thread a few months back, but never finished it because I wanted to take pictures. I think I should probably finish that up soon and post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fretless Posted February 11, 2009 Members Share Posted February 11, 2009 For the love of god. You have too much relief in the neck. The truss rod nut needs to be tightened slightly - end of problem. This has nothing to do with neck pitch. you would think this would cause more fret buzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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