Members Dark Slide Posted March 5, 2009 Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 I was bored today and grabbed one of the few tracks we've actually managed to edit at this point, and decided to try and mix it myself, just for fun. Now, I don't know jack {censored} about mixing or EQing anything, but I figured I'd post it for {censored}s and giggles anyway. http://hatredalive.com/skiddermix.mp3 I am playing drums. Was trying to figure out what to do with the bass. I actually had it higher in the mix at first, but Rob, the bassist, asked for me to drop it a little. I might have posted this song a bit ago, but it wasn't mixed or anything. Thought some people here might have some ideas. If I can get something decent, I can at least send it along when it is being mastered to give the guy doing it an idea of what we're shooting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lokidecat Posted March 5, 2009 Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 Definitely not my style, but i see the value in it's genre. The bass drum has an odd clack to it that sounds sorta odd. Like it's popping the mic. Guitars seem to be doin' their own thing at times irrespective of the beat. The snare needs to come up and be remic'd a bit. The bass needs to come up just a little. Aside from that, it sounds better than anything I've ever attempted. =P Keep at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachoff Posted March 5, 2009 Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 I don't dig that vocal style, but the music is rad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dark Slide Posted March 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 Thanks Loki. There's nothing wrong with the micing of anything on the drums, they are all triggered with some of the highest quality samples, in some fantastic studios. Like I said, I dunno WTF I am doing other than having fun, and the fact that I can screw up the awesome sounds I have to work with is a perfect example haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lokidecat Posted March 5, 2009 Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 odd. it sounds weird to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Incubitabus Posted March 5, 2009 Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 my only big note is that the guitars and vocals seem to exist in the same sonic space in the mix. Try bringing down the mids on the guitars a bit, and then bring the gain up on them to compensate. It should make the guitars sit around the vocals, and not in the same range as them. If you have 2 guitar tracks, you could also try panning each to opposite sides to open up their differences a bit. I won't mention the bass or kick since I'm listening on laptop speakers, and low frequencies are just lost on them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lug Posted March 5, 2009 Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 Definitely not my style, but i see the value in it's genre. The bass drum has an odd clack to it that sounds sorta odd. Like it's popping the mic. Guitars seem to be doin' their own thing at times irrespective of the beat. The snare needs to come up and be remic'd a bit. The bass needs to come up just a little. Aside from that, it sounds better than anything I've ever attempted. =P Keep at it! Personally I loved the drum sound on this, a bit different from the norm. Made itself known. Had a bit of a military march feel to it. Agree on the bass line being too buried, but then again, I always think the bass line is too buried in metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dark Slide Posted March 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 I'll tell Rob that all the bass players think the bass is too low in the mix I can actually hear it pretty well, but I know what to listen for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AluminumNeck Posted March 5, 2009 Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 Alot of clipping. Get rid of the clipping and move some EQ on each instrument to make a clear path for each instrument and you'll be all set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dark Slide Posted March 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 Alot of clipping. Get rid of the clipping and move some EQ on each instrument to make a clear path for each instrument and you'll be all set. I went over it a couple of times in Cubase to make sure there was no clipping... but forgot I made some changes after and didn't recheck it. Thanks for bringing that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AluminumNeck Posted March 5, 2009 Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 How big is your project file in cubase ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dark Slide Posted March 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 How big is your project file in cubase ? My .CPR file? 512kb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justinbass Posted March 5, 2009 Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 I've liked your band for awhile, so it's no surprise that I dig it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AluminumNeck Posted March 5, 2009 Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 No the whole entire file. Waves instruments midi files etc ? I'd like to take a peak at it but it is most likely over 75mb. My .CPR file? 512kb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dark Slide Posted March 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 No the whole entire file. Waves instruments midi files etc ? I'd like to take a peak at it but it is most likely over 75mb. Apparently I am missing something. I don't have a file that combines all of those things. I have the .CPR file that loads them all individually when I start up Cubase... Is there a way to save it otherwise? What about the .OMF files? I just saved it as one of those, it is 35mb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AluminumNeck Posted March 5, 2009 Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 I am pretty sure in Cubase you can setup a save project file format. This allows you to send it all in one big portable dump so it can move to another DAW worksurface. I have the same drum sample library you have so thats a no brainer. Here is tha article. If you can save it in a standard DAW format for export with all the waves attached that would rock. It bet its big. Supported exchange formats http://knowledgebase.steinberg.de/317_1.html Apparently I am missing something. I don't have a file that combines all of those things. I have the .CPR file that loads them all individually when I start up Cubase... Is there a way to save it otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AluminumNeck Posted March 5, 2009 Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 Any of the standard exchange formats work fine for me. 35mb sounds a little small but it could be right becuase your drums are essentially a midi file now. Apparently I am missing something. I don't have a file that combines all of those things. I have the .CPR file that loads them all individually when I start up Cubase... Is there a way to save it otherwise? What about the .OMF files? I just saved it as one of those, it is 35mb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dark Slide Posted March 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 Any of the standard exchange formats work fine for me. 35mb sounds a little small but it could be right becuase your drums are essentially a midi file now. Heh, yeah, ok, I got it figured out. Never had to do that before. It was 35mb because I only exported a single track. The entire thing is over 500mb. That is 2 guitar tracks, 2 bass, 3 vocal, 2 kick, 2 snare, 4 toms, 1 overhead, 1 room, 1 hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jugghaid Posted March 5, 2009 Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 Brutal man. Sounds kick ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AluminumNeck Posted March 5, 2009 Members Share Posted March 5, 2009 I figured it would be huge. Burn a CD and toss it in the mail ? I'd like a bit of a mixing challenge and this is just the thing to tackle. Heh, yeah, ok, I got it figured out. Never had to do that before. It was 35mb because I only exported a single track. The entire thing is over 500mb. That is 2 guitar tracks, 2 bass, 3 vocal, 2 kick, 2 snare, 4 toms, 1 overhead, 1 room, 1 hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ToeJamFootball Posted March 6, 2009 Members Share Posted March 6, 2009 Loving the song man The snare is buried though. And the vocals do sit "in" the guitars, I imagine it would be hard to mix growls that low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dark Slide Posted March 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 6, 2009 Thanks for the feedback, guys. I am sure the final product will be great, when it's in the hands of someone who has a clue. As far as the snare goes... I have raised and lowered it so many times that I'm sick of it, haha. I can't get it to a place I like it. I eventually got here and gave up Aluminum: I'll have to check with the guys to make sure they are cool with me doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bryan316 Posted March 6, 2009 Members Share Posted March 6, 2009 Compressor. Utilize it. Keeps the snare from fluctuating and making you think, "now it's buried again. Now it's hot again!" Keeps stuff in control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AluminumNeck Posted March 6, 2009 Members Share Posted March 6, 2009 The drumming software he is using also has alot of flexiability in terms of that. Compressor. Utilize it. Keeps the snare from fluctuating and making you think, "now it's buried again. Now it's hot again!" Keeps stuff in control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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