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A group of friends and I (6 or 7 of us total) are going to NYC for about a week next month. We get together as a group for the Oregon Country Fair and/or a trip to the coast every year. A few months ago, one of the "founders" of the group was diagnosed with cancer, so we decided that this is the year to do a big-time vacation in the Big Apple.

 

We've got some ideas for things to see & do, but there are so many options that it's a little overwhelming trying to decide what to see and what to skip. Rather than try to wade through and endless list of Google searches, I figured I'd ask the forum for some ideas.

 

Our priorities for the trip are: good food, good music, and "only-in-New York" adventures. For the most part, we'd like to skip the stereotypical tourist traps in favor of places that are a little more off the beaten path.

 

We arrive May 9th, depart May 17th and are staying (I think) in an apartment near Times Square. Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions.

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a new option for lodging just popped up. We've got the option of staying in an apartment in Manhattan or an apartment in Queens. Similar amount of space, each place looks about the same in the pictures we've seen.

 

The one in Queens is a little cheaper, but farther out. Still supposed to be in walking distance of the subway.

 

I've spent a couple days in NYC, but it's been a long time and I don't enough about the city to know the pros & cons of Manhattan vs. Queens. Any suggestions?

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you could spend hours just walking around looking at stuff.

don't walk around staring straight up. you'll look like a tourist.

even though they're touristy, you should definitely do the following: take the ferry from battery park out to liberty island and take a tour of the statue of liberty. take the 1/2/3 (red circle) train south to south ferry and go to battery park, then follow signs. or you can take the 5 (green square) south to bowling green. this is on the east side of battery park. follow the signs to the liberty island ferry. check out the south street sea port. a tourist trap, but the bars and restaurants have great food and drinks. go into a random pizza parlor and order a slice. pretty much any where you go will be better than any pizza in oregon. do the same with a random bagel shop in the morning. the bagels are awesome. get a dirty water dog. hot dog guy on the street. i like 'kraut and mustard. but whatever. it's a NYC experience. go see the chrystler building. nothing like it. crazy design. check out the empire state building. it's on 34th street.

taxis are great in the evenings, but during the day figure out the subway system. maps are free and it's easy to figure out. it's the best way to get around. buy a metro card when you go into the subway. $10 or $15 should be alright for a few days. most stations you can transfer. like i said, figure out the subway. it's the best way around the city.

 

 

p.s. i just saw your post about queens. unless you really need to save $$, don't do it. manhattan is where it's at. manhattan is 'the city' to new yorkers. you can walk out of your room at 3am and find whatever you want. whether it's turkish cuisine, porno, or a bottle of whisky. stay in the city.

 

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Stay in the city if you can pull it off. I used to have a friend who lived on 2nd & 97th. We came back to his place after the Pink Floyd show at Yankee stadium in '94 and were hanging out on the balcony of his 4th floor walkup when a disagreement in a bar next door to his building spilled out onto the street.

 

What was special about this fight was, it was a bunch of amputees vs. a bunch of jarhead looking guys. By amputees, I mean every single one of the 6 or 7 people had part of a leg missing and they were all on crutches, using one for balance and waving the other one around trying to bash the other guys. It was the most hilarious thing I've ever seen in my entire life.

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pretty much any where you go will be better than any pizza in oregon.

 

 

I have been to NYC at least 5 times and that is not true in any way.

 

Oh, and +1 about the statue of liberty and staying in Manhattan.

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I've had better pizza in Norfolk, VA than I've had in Manhattan and I spent a good bit of time trying to find the good pizza joints in the city by asking my coworkers who were born and raised in teh city.
NYC pizza is overrated.

 

+1111

 

That, and I'll defend Pizza Bella to the death :mad:

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I've had better pizza in Norfolk, VA than I've had in Manhattan and I spent a good bit of time trying to find the good pizza joints in the city by asking my coworkers who were born and raised in teh city. NYC pizza is overrated.

 

 

Ever been to St Marks (IIRC?)? Their sicilian style pizza is to die for. I'm not into the classic paper thin 'pies' at all either though.

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Ever been to St Marks (IIRC?)? Their sicilian style pizza is to die for. I'm not into the classic paper thin 'pies' at all either though.

 

 

I lived there six years ago, I don't remember all of the places I went to. I do remember having a few Sicilian style pies and thinking that they were quite good. The traditional NYC thin crust pie is {censored}.

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Since you'll be there for awhile, I recommend checking things out in different neighborhoods.

 

Chinatown is always interesting. It's packed, and people are trying to sell you bootleg DVDs and fake designer bags. Little Italy has lots of great food. Greenwich Village is cool to walk around.

 

Walking over the Brooklyn Bridge is fun. You get to see a great view of the city, as well as Brooklyn and parts of Queens. While you're down by the bridge, you can check out South Street Seaport, Battery Park, Ground Zero, and the financial district too...

 

Spend some time walking around Central Park...

 

I'd also recommend staying in Manhattan if possible. Queens wouldn't be my number 1 place to stay, and it takes longer than you'd think to get into the city. I also wouldn't chose to stay in Times Square, but I guess it's better than Queens. We usually try to avoid TS at all costs...

 

For food: Lombardi's is known as a good place for NYC pizza, but its pretty busy. It's right in Little Italy/Chinatown area...they're right next to each other.

 

Katz's Deli if you want to see a place that has been around for a long time. They've got good food, but for sandwiches, I think it's expensive. I think it's about $15 for a pastrami on rye...

 

On the weekend, you've got a good chance of walking through a street fair too.

 

Oh...and the Museum of Natural History is one of the best in the country.

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+1 to it being worth the extra scratch to stay in the city, although I don't know if I'd want to be near Times Square.


Check the
to see what music is happening while you're there.

 

 

I stayed at a small hotel a few blocks from Time Square, and other than it being friggen tiny it was not bad at all. Cab rides are not that expensive (at least compared to what I am used to paying for cabs) and subways are even cheaper so you can get pretty much anywhere from there.

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Katz's Deli if you want to see a place that has been around for a long time. They've got good food, but for sandwiches, I think it's expensive. I think it's about
$15 for a pastrami on rye...

 

 

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Don't know if it is still there or not, but when I was there we found a little piano bar called Maries Crisis in East Village... happens to be a gay bar but I can honestly say I had one of the best times of my life there. And no, I didnt try out for the other team :D If you like

singing and cheap drinks (it was by far the cheapest place I found) and colorful people than hit it up.

 

I think it definitely qualifies under the "Only in New York category". Right down the street is the building that is used in the opening shot of 'Friends'.

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Thanks for all the tips. I just got an email from the trip organizer saying she's putting a deposit down on the place in Manhattan. Queens seemed like a good idea to me last night, but after hearing your suggestions, I'm glad she didn't listen to me.

 

The Natural History Museum is on our to do list, as is seeing Les Paul. I don't know much about him, but I can't turn down the chance to see a living legend. (I just hope his show isn't too jazzy - jazz guitar can be like fingernails on a chalkboard to my ears.) There's a Benny Goodman Centennial Celebration at the same club a night or two before Les Paul's show that I'd like to check out.

 

We're thinking about catching a Broadway show - God of Carnage looks good, but a little short for the cost of the tickets. I wouldn't mind seeing Rock of Ages, but I don't think anyone else in the group is as much of a fan of 80's butt rock as I am.

 

Does anyone know about the behind the scenes tours of Madison Square Garden and/or Radio City Music Hall? The blurbs I read sounded interesting - probably get to see more of the venues that way than you would at an actual concert or sporting event.

 

I found a video the other day that was all about the food carts scattered around Manhattan. Some of the food made my mouth water just thinking about. I told the group I think we should have a rule that at least one of the days we're there we should eat/drink only things we get from the 'roach coaches'.

 

Thanks to burdizzos for the link to the Village Voice. I haven't had a chance to dig too deep, but that's the best all-in-one source of happenings & such I've see. I'll be spending a lot of time on that site in the next few weeks.

 

What's a good place to catch some blues? Are there any swing/big band venues (I'm picturing a bandstand and zoot suited swing dancers). Other than Les Paul, are there any other must see musicians that have regular shows?

 

What are some good music shops? Does Sadowsky have a public showroom?

 

Thanks for the help. I'll definitely be bookmarking this thread.

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What are some good music shops? Does Sadowsky have a public showroom?

 

 

I'm not sure about Sadowsky...check his site. I think it's by appointment...

 

As for the rest: Music Row (48th between 6th & 7th) just north of Times Square

has Sam Ash, Manny's (I'm not sure when it's closing though), and Rudy's.

 

Then you've got:

30th Street Guitars

Ludlow Guitars

Matt Umanov Guitars

GC on 14th

Mandolin Brothers

Rivington Guitars

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Ooh yeah! Broadway and RCMH. Highly recommended. I've seen a few shows on broadway, such as phantom of the opera, spamalot, avenue q and some others. All were excellent. The RCMH tour was cool, and one time I did the NBC tour and saw Conan's studio. Apparently, during one of the wars, the hydraulics technology used in the stages in the RCMH was guarded by the Secret Service as it was also used on various aircraft carriers.

 

If you can afford it, I'd say go see Stomp. Now that was cool.

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Holy cow!! I sure hope you've done that list before so you could just cut & paste. That's gotta be the motherload of NY info.

 

I'll be sure to share these links with the rest of the group.

 

I don't know what my schedule will be like when I get there, but if our paths happen to cross, I'd gladly buy you a beer for that list of links (even if it is a quick cut & paste job).

 

Thank you, Hotblack! :thu:

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A group of friends and I (6 or 7 of us total) are going to NYC for about a week next month. We get together as a group for the Oregon Country Fair and/or a trip to the coast every year. A few months ago, one of the "founders" of the group was diagnosed with cancer, so we decided that this is the year to do a big-time vacation in the Big Apple.


We've got some ideas for things to see & do, but there are so many options that it's a little overwhelming trying to decide what to see and what to skip. Rather than try to wade through and endless list of Google searches, I figured I'd ask the forum for some ideas.


Our priorities for the trip are: good food, good music, and "only-in-New York" adventures. For the most part, we'd like to skip the stereotypical tourist traps in favor of places that are a little more off the beaten path.


We arrive May 9th, depart May 17th and are staying (I think) in an apartment near Times Square. Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions.

 

 

 

Only in NY, lets see

 

go to Bed sty/Brownsville Brooklyn (Pitkin and Mother Gasgon Blvd) is always lovely in the spring.

 

Southern Blvd in the Bronx ( take a swing down by the Bronx terminal market ) for a slice of the Bronx you'll never forget.

While in the Bronx take a trip to 161st street and River ave take a walk up to 170th on river ave. make sure its not a game day so you can see the crack vials and rubbers on the street.

 

 

Jamaica Queens. 168th and Parsons blvd, Sutphin blvd, and Jamaica aves are very nice this time of year. Off the beaten path and not to touristy......

 

Now Manhattan, The Brass ring of {censored} if you really want to get down.

 

Try 145th and the east river. Visit the beautiful old home of the Polo grounds where the NY Giants baseball team used to play.

 

181 and St Nicholas always a fun mutilingual experience.

 

116 and park ave, real live Hos and Pimps from 9pm-3 am

 

127th and Lennox ave is nice destination as well, dont forget a bullet proof vest...

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Leave your emergency contact info with us so we know who to call.....

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I've had better pizza in Norfolk, VA than I've had in Manhattan and I spent a good bit of time trying to find the good pizza joints in the city by asking my coworkers who were born and raised in teh city. NYC pizza is overrated.

 

 

HA!

 

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a new option for lodging just popped up. We've got the option of staying in an apartment in Manhattan or an apartment in Queens. Similar amount of space, each place looks about the same in the pictures we've seen.


The one in Queens is a little cheaper, but farther out. Still supposed to be in walking distance of the subway.


I've spent a couple days in NYC, but it's been a long time and I don't enough about the city to know the pros & cons of Manhattan vs. Queens. Any suggestions?

 

 

 

 

Depends on where in Queens and the price difference you may blow on mass transit and cabs wont be worth it

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Only in NY, lets see


go to Bed sty/Brownsville Brooklyn (Pitkin and Mother Gasgon Blvd) is always lovely in the spring.


....

 

 

I grew up in Brownsville Brooklyn , those were the days ;) Glad i moved to Long Island !!

 

Dont forget to go to the Lower East Side and go bar crawling !!

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