Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 5, 2009 Members Share Posted October 5, 2009 well some of this will sound silly but im gonna say it anyway im currently in a three piece, which will increase to a four once we find a replacement guitarist. im using as my sig states a ampeg svt pro-6 thru an 610hlf ampeg cab. my problem is that im struggling to find the cutting tone im after, ive had a bit of a play with the eq, and im struggling to get a sound that i want! i dnt use to many effects that muck up the signal. the problem is that my e string seems to just sound really flabby and loose! even tho i play in regular tuning? i use a bit of compression but this if anything made it worse! can anyone who has a pro 6 help? or at least point me in the right direction? i know this is quite a stupid thing to ask! andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigPigPeaches Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 Have you tried different basses? Cause that rig is definitely not known for having poor low end. Then again, Modulus is not known for it either. But I wouldn't point the finger at the rig just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 I think it's the cab - I was totally underwhelmed by the low end from the SVT610-HLF I had for a couple of weeks... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bnyswonger Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 i know this is quite a stupid thing to ask! andy Nothing is too stupid to ask, and that certainly isn't. George thinks the cab has flaws, and he's right on about gear most all of the time. You just haven't found your rig yet. Try your head with as many different cab configurations as you can - you have decent power, maybe some 15"s or a pair of 2x12" GB neos stacked vertically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zachoff Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 If george is right, so be it... I've never played through that rig but my general advice for this sort of thing is: Unplug all of your effects. Set all EQs flat. Add effects one at a time and dial in tone. Tweak EQ at the end to fine tune desired tone. though... Like I said, I've never played that rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FreestyleIntruder Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 Have you tried a heavier gauge of strings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reverend179 Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 I think it's the cab - I was totally underwhelmed by the low end from the SVT610-HLF I had for a couple of weeks... - georgestrings And my 610HLF shakes the whole damn room. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kaesh Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 Go ahead and try the example settings from the manual. It's not a solution, but better than randomly fiddling with knobs, and may help you learn the controls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlwarriner Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 And my 610HLF shakes the whole damn room. YMMV. exactly. i test-drove an ampeg 6x10 once, and found it to be brutally awesome in the low end department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members huben94 Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 I would take a close look at the cabinet; My Ampeg cabinet was not assembled correctly and was rattling and leaking air. I glued the joint and it sounded a bunch better.Maybe you could have a similar issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 The E on your FB4 feels loose and flabby? Hrm, when was the last time you had it set up? I had the action raised on my last FB4 a bit b/c Modulus hunkers those suckers down TIGHT as far as action goes. May adjust just the E first and go from there. And this is NOT a flat-out "Ampeg flame post", but I've had various rigs of theirs in the past and with the basses I was playing I just couldn't get a sound I liked out of it. Course I've never really liked the tones and sounds of the "standard" rigs anyway, so that's a lot of it. Could be the same for you, especially with that bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluedogaudio Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 And my 610HLF shakes the whole damn room. YMMV. Yeah, mine too. I've never had any problems getting a good sound out of mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 Have you tried different basses? Cause that rig is definitely not known for having poor low end. Then again, Modulus is not known for it either. But I wouldn't point the finger at the rig just yet. yeh i play a pbass thru it too. no im really happy with the cab just want to get an awesome sound as oppose to a ok sound that im ok with. i think im gonna just set the eq flat and go from the beginning. andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mlwarriner Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 i think im gonna just set the eq flat and go from the beginning.andy excellent choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 excellent choice. indeed i think its for the best as im sure some of my eq at the minute is sucking some of the power out of my rig to. andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 A cheap solution is to try a different brand/type/gauge of string: DR's are highly recommended and they made a huge difference (to me) on my P-bass - particularly with the low E. Also try raising the action on the low E, and lower your pickups a little: too high = boomy farty (in my experience) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 The E on your FB4 feels loose and flabby? Hrm, when was the last time you had it set up? I had the action raised on my last FB4 a bit b/c Modulus hunkers those suckers down TIGHT as far as action goes. May adjust just the E first and go from there.And this is NOT a flat-out "Ampeg flame post", but I've had various rigs of theirs in the past and with the basses I was playing I just couldn't get a sound I liked out of it. Course I've never really liked the tones and sounds of the "standard" rigs anyway, so that's a lot of it. Could be the same for you, especially with that bass. i had i setup just after i got it but i have changed the strings since then on both my basses, so it could be that? i didnt have my ampeg rig b4 i changed the strings. the e on both the moddy and the p sound really loose sounding, im trying to think of a word to describe it! sort of not very punchy? hey rsb some amps are for everyone! i tried the LM2 at a guitar show and hated it! just wasn't for me! andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 I think it's the cab - I was totally underwhelmed by the low end from the SVT610-HLF I had for a couple of weeks... - georgestrings +1 I think I said when you (the OP - quoting George because I agree with him!) bought the HLF that you'd be better of with a Big One. Sell that dog and get a Big One and you'll be a lot happier with your E. Get a hold of Alex Claber and I bet he can arrange for you to get a chance to try it out. In my opinion the HLf sounds pretty good, but it's nothing like a 3015LF which can reproduce both the fundamental and the first harmonic of E quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 A cheap solution is to try a different brand/type/gauge of string: DR's are highly recommended and they made a huge difference (to me) on my P-bass - particularly with the low E.Also try raising the action on the low E, and lower your pickups a little: too high = boomy farty (in my experience) if eq'ing doesnt work on thursday i think that may be my next port of call! zachoffyou read my mind, im doing that first on thurs! then ill add my morley wah, then octave and finally distortion in but, im coming up with a new way of using my effects at the moment. andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 i had i setup just after i got it but i have changed the strings since then on both my basses, so it could be that? i didnt have my ampeg rig b4 i changed the strings. the e on both the moddy and the p sound really loose sounding, im trying to think of a word to describe it! sort of not very punchy? hey rsb some amps are for everyone! i tried the LM2 at a guitar show and hated it! just wasn't for me! andy What you mentioned is why I don't even change my own strings. I always have everything setup and going just how I want, then I do that, and catastrophe ensues. It definitely could be that. I swapped strings on my MTD and it needs some help for sure. I haven't done it on my Spector yet, but I will before the end of this month. I wish I could understand more of your prob mang. It's sad to see such an ax having issues w/ a rig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 +1 I think I said when you (the OP - quoting George because I agree with him!) bought the HLF that you'd be better of with a Big One. Sell that dog and get a Big One and you'll be a lot happier with your E. Get a hold of Alex Claber and I bet he can arrange for you to get a chance to try it out. In my opinion the HLf sounds pretty good, but it's nothing like a 3015LF which can reproduce both the fundamental and the first harmonic of E quite well. yeh i remember you guys saying that actually thing is i love the sound bar this one problem with the e not coming thru very well! but thing is it may be my fault! i want get rid of that possibility before i even think about changing cab! as im sure when i played are drummers v4 thru the hlf it sounded awesome with lots of lows! and my e was clear! so im sure that its me! andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 What you mentioned is why I don't even change my own strings. I always have everything setup and going just how I want, then I do that, and catastrophe ensues. It definitely could be that. I swapped strings on my MTD and it needs some help for sure. I haven't done it on my Spector yet, but I will before the end of this month. I wish I could understand more of your prob mang. It's sad to see such an ax having issues w/ a rig! indeed! i love my flea and my p, there keepers! never going anywhere! i WILL! sort this problem asap as i want them all to sound awesome in our next gig in November! also probs have to sort out 2 eq's as obviously the p is a passive and the mody very very active! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 exactly. i test-drove an ampeg 6x10 once, and found it to be brutally awesome in the low end department. Yeah, I thought they were great, too - until I played one in a couple of rehearsals, that is... With the same band, and in the same room - I get excellent results with a Mesa Powerhouse 610, SVT410-HLF, or a Peavey 215D-BW, yet the SVT610-HLF would fart out long before I was able to push it like I do those other cabs... FWIW, that band isn't that loud - 1 guitar through a half stack, and I don't have to wear hearing protection at typical levels... I *think* the SVT610-HLF doesn't have enough cab volume to be ported like it is - after all, it shares the same depth as the sealed 810, but is ported like the 410(which is much deeper)... Also, I notice that the Powerhouse 610 and Goliath Sr are both much deeper physically than the 610-HLF, and don't fart out like the 610-HLF... To each their own, but I'd sooner gig with my SVT410-HLF than I would the SVT610-HLF, and wouldn't make that trade, either... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members infralife Posted October 7, 2009 Members Share Posted October 7, 2009 At first, I had a hard time nailing the sound I wanted with my SVT3-Pro and 410-HLF. I kept fooling with the EQ levers and 2 gain knobs. I happened to read the manual a long time after (duh) and found the last page with the settings for classic rock, funk/pop, jazz. I made a copy and stuck it up on the wall where I practice. When I stray and the sound is off it usually gets me back on track. Set your guitar volume on full, tones to noon, and consult the chart. Flexible machines in a wooden cage; 10", 12", 15"...shock them and hear them bellow! Enjoy! INFRALIFE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 0175westwood29 Posted October 7, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 7, 2009 At first, I had a hard time nailing the sound I wanted with my SVT3-Pro and 410-HLF. I kept fooling with the EQ levers and 2 gain knobs. I happened to read the manual a long time after (duh) and found the last page with the settings for classic rock, funk/pop, jazz. I made a copy and stuck it up on the wall where I practice. When I stray and the sound is off it usually gets me back on track. Set your guitar volume on full, tones to noon, and consult the chart. its in my bag to take to practice. andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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