Members Outkaster Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 Musicians that should not be allowed, add as you see fit: Lead singers that wear leather pants over the age of 40 Years old. Drummers that have drumsticks and not one pair matches. Drummers that will not change their drum heads and they insiste they still "sound good" Guitarist's that play with out of tune strings all the time. Soundmen with homemade gear that insist that they have better stuff than what you can buy in the music stores. Keyboard players that use stupid organ sounds on stage. Keyboard players that wear keyboard ties on stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fastplant Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 Originally posted by Outkaster Soundmen with homemade gear that insist that they have better stuff than what you can buy in the music stores. Soundmen with homemade gear that ridicule you for buying some "piece of garbage" $4,000 guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tedster Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 Anyone who doesn't show up 'til after load-in...and makes themselves scarce during load-out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted August 11, 2005 Moderators Share Posted August 11, 2005 Originally posted by Outkaster Musicians that should not be allowed, add as you see fit: Lead singers that wear leather pants over the age of 40 Years old. ummm...how can you tell how old the pants are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slaws Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 Drummers can either wear gloves or be shirtless but not both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted August 11, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blackwatch Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 ummm...how can you tell how old the pants are? Now that's funny....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NecroSocial Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 Lead vocalists who sing out of tune and insist it's because they can't hear themselves over the music. Anyone who joins a band with an "image" and then refuses to adopt or play along with that image. Guitarists who insist on lugging a full stack amp to a gig where a combo will do just fine. Drummers without stamina. "Artistes" that refuse to acknowledge the business side of the music business. Musicians who think staying up all night getting wasted before a gig is a good idea. Bandmates who refuse to kick in for band expenses. Slow songwriters who won't accept help with lyrics/melodies. Anyone joining a Goth band who has never listened to Bauhaus or Christian Death. Anyone who treats their birthday like it's a national holiday (oh I can't rehease/gig that day because it's my birthday). Especially if you catch them doing nothing that day. Ah the list could go on for ages... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KHAN Posted August 11, 2005 Members Share Posted August 11, 2005 ummm...how can you tell how old the pants are? The odor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NecroSocial Posted August 12, 2005 Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 Almost forgot to add: Bass players who think they're too good to play root notes. I mean geez not every bassline has to be a jazzplosive, funktastic oddessy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted August 12, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 Originally posted by NecroSocial Almost forgot to add:Bass players who think they're too good to play root notes. I mean geez not every bassline has to be a jazzplosive, funktastic oddessy. Yeah that is a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members incurab1e Posted August 12, 2005 Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 Originally posted by Tedster Anyone who doesn't show up 'til after load-in...and makes themselves scarce during load-out. singers then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted August 12, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 Originally posted by incurab1e singers then! Yeah they think they have the toughest job all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpacedCowboy Posted August 12, 2005 Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 Originally posted by Outkaster Lead singers that wear leather pants over the age of 40 Years old. Really? Even if it's a hot chic lead singer and she looks better in leather than most chics in their 20's? I'll be the first to admit there are plenty of gone-to-seed yahoos out there trying to front and be something they're not. However, the mode of thinking that someone shoudn't be allowed to wear something just because they reach a certain age (especially if they can still pull it off) is kind of outdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outrider Posted August 12, 2005 Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 Musicians who sit around and make lists of stuff they hate. ....oh wait...I do that, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Botch Posted August 12, 2005 Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 Guys who don't work on any harmony parts during rehearsal, then double someone else's part on stage, and insists it sounds good. Guys who add vibrato to harmonies when no one else is singing vibrato (and the only band I can think of that does good harmonies with vibrato is King's X). A drummer who has to play the last note, EVERY SONG. Guys who won't let you try to find gigs, insist only they will do it, but they don't follow through. Guys who don't help load in/out has already been mentioned, but it easily tops my list. Guys who can't clean up their language during outdoor, all-age shows or weddings, making the whole band look bad. Guys who WANT to play "Sweet Home Alabama". Man, this little exercise got me all bummed out. I'm going to get some lunch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jahozer Posted August 12, 2005 Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 drummers who "solo" in between songs. Especially at practice. Or drummers who bang the drums when your head is next to them wrapping up cables or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jahozer Posted August 12, 2005 Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 guys who make up theory terms to sound smart"play the super domni-tonic" Singers who walk over to the stage board and "adjust" the levels without singing into the mic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eightball2 Posted August 12, 2005 Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 drummers that dont understands dynamics drummers who drum inbetween songs...already mentioned singers who think they can sing certain songs when they cant guitar players who fiddle with knobs on their amp during songs guitar players with crappy guitar cables.. players who insist that since they like a song everyone else will bandmates who dress like total bums at a gig and expect to be treated like pros.. bandmates who refuse to practice a song more than once bandmates who chat after the gig and dont help pack up...also goes along with loading after a gig hmmm....thats all for now...dont get me started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted August 12, 2005 Author Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 Originally posted by eightball2 drummers that dont understands dynamics drummers who drum inbetween songs...already mentioned singers who think they can sing certain songs when they cant guitar players who fiddle with knobs on their amp during songs guitar players with crappy guitar cables.. players who insist that since they like a song everyone else will bandmates who dress like total bums at a gig and expect to be treated like pros.. bandmates who refuse to practice a song more than once bandmates who chat after the gig and dont help pack up...also goes along with loading after a gig hmmm....thats all for now...dont get me started Yeah really. We have a girl singer causing a little bit of trouble with the other girl singer in our band. She maybe gone soon. Singers have a tough job but often they do not understand all of the dynamics of being in a band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ratthedd Posted August 12, 2005 Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 Singers who don't know the difference between frequency and amplitude (98% of all karaoke singers) Musicians who play the intro to the song before the song starts to "make sure they have the sound they want." (write it down you dunbass restard!!! ) Drummers who don't know the beat to the song they're supposed to be playing the intro to and make it up as they go along. Soundmen who insist on mixing by ear while ignoring the fact that they've got some channels maxed out to the point of clipping. Musicians who recognize that they really should be practicing at home on their own time then refuse to do so and make up lame excuses for why they didn't. Bar owners/managers who agree to certain payments then claim they won't follow through because there's not a big enough crowd. This is especially annoying when they never bothered to advertize that they're suddenly going to start having live music at their place. Band members who won't help pay for advertising. Band members who won't recognize that others have $ thousands invested in equipment and insist that they should be paid the same as everybody else. (this gets tricky... ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jahozer Posted August 12, 2005 Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 Originally posted by ratthedd Band members who won't recognize that others have $ thousands invested in equipment and insist that they should be paid the same as everybody else. (this gets tricky... ) How do you deal with that. I own the pa and have invested much more money than the others. I have tossed around the idea of taking a percentage as "pa rent", but in all honesty, when I just came in as a guitar player the split was always even, regardless of who had the pa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Never_Grew_Up Posted August 12, 2005 Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 Guitarists with 15 battery powered effects & no extra batteries. Same as above but they never change their batteries so their effects sound like crap because there's not enough juice left in their crappy Big Lots 10 for a dollar batteries. Guitarists who constantly buy/trade effects so they're always learning how their new gizmo works during rehearsals/gigs. All players who don't bring extra cables/batteries/strings/tools. All players with no basic troubleshooting skills - "Follow the signal path to figure out how to make the sound come out" All players who don't mute when they tune. All players who only know the opening lick to a song but insist on trying to figure out the rest during rehearsal. (Also goes for singers & lyrics) All players who won't listen when the sound guy says they're too loud on stage. Hey, this is kinda fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ratthedd Posted August 12, 2005 Members Share Posted August 12, 2005 Originally posted by jahozer How do you deal with that. I own the pa and have invested much more money than the others.I have tossed around the idea of taking a percentage as "pa rent", but in all honesty, when I just came in as a guitar player the split was always even, regardless of who had the pa. I have no idea. I've been the sole PA owner in my band mostly just because I hapened to fall into that role. Over the years there's been talk about taking some of the money we earn doing gigs and buying stuff that belongs to the whole band, but I really hate that idea because what heppens to the stuff when someone leaves? Do we have to buy that person out? Who gets to decide what upgrade equipment gets bought? If one person thinks we have to buy a BBE unit because that would give us a better sound and someone else says we really need a decent EQ first, then what? Do we all vote on stuff that only one or two people know anything about?I guess I'll just keep buying upgrade stuff for MY PA then if I decide I want to rent out my services as a sound guy to other local bands that don't have a PA I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sordid1 Posted August 13, 2005 Members Share Posted August 13, 2005 My biggest issues are guys with ego's that have no reason to have them. There are a lot of local guys that have never been anything but local guys that walk around like gods. Great musician or not you are still a person and need to act like one. The other one was mentioned earlier and it's the "motivated" band guy that says they are going to do a bunch of band stuff i.e. booking, web design and whatever and doesn't follow through on any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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