Members arashi Posted October 8, 2005 Members Share Posted October 8, 2005 ...through my alley. I look over at something near a trach can that catches my eye. It's an old Crate G120c amp. 2x60 wts with 2x12 speakers. etc... Well used and dusty but I figured hell, if its broken it may be easy to fix. Turns out that it works just fine except for the headphone jack. Just that the speakers were turned off by the switch in the back. I figure someone pulled it up from the basement. tried it out, didn't get any sound and dumped it in the alley. Not a bad night:D Anyone use one of these? I'm not familiar and crate doesn;t even have the manuals anymore. woohoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cortfan Posted October 8, 2005 Members Share Posted October 8, 2005 We had a 3 piece metal band record in our studio last year, and the guitarist/singer had one of those amps. It sounded absolutely fantastic. Unbelievable. Great find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Botch Posted October 8, 2005 Members Share Posted October 8, 2005 Great find, Arashi, Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators MrKnobs Posted October 8, 2005 Moderators Share Posted October 8, 2005 And so begins another saga of the "cursed Crate" amplifier. Terry D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tedster Posted October 8, 2005 Members Share Posted October 8, 2005 You didn't find the heroin hidden by the Mafia in the back of the amp, did you? They'll be looking for it by now. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members arashi Posted October 8, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 8, 2005 Ahhhh. You're right MrKnobs. It IS cursed. It made me kill last night. On the other hand I figured out that the headphone jack works if you turn the speakers off. So it's a good trade off:D If there WAS heroin in it it's not there now. Althouhg it is kinda dusty back there. hmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators MrKnobs Posted October 8, 2005 Moderators Share Posted October 8, 2005 Originally posted by arashi Ahhhh. You're right MrKnobs. It IS cursed. It made me kill last night. On the other hand I figured out that the headphone jack works if you turn the speakers off. So it's a good trade off:D If there WAS heroin in it it's not there now. Althouhg it is kinda dusty back there. hmmm... When I was putting myself through undergrad, I worked as an amp repairman. One day a dude brought in a really nasty looking old Traynor Bass head for repair. A couple days later when I got around to tackling it, I brought it out in the center of the sales floor (I worked in a music store) to take it apart. The moment I pulled the chassis out of the case, the whole thing totally exploded roaches in every direction. They ran up my arms, they ran across my face, they spread in every direction of the compass like a massive insectoid oil slick from the wreck of the Exxon Valdez! There were literally thousands of roaches of all sizes. I was so startled all I could do was grip the amp harder as the gross bug avalanche ran all over me. The owner of the store came out from behind the counter wielding a huge can of Raid as if it were a fire extinguisher, and hosed me, the amp, and the circle of expanding roaches down until all were dead or dying. He didn't say a word, and his expression never changed. When the can was empty, he walked right over to the service log and added "$40 extermination fee" to the ticket on the amp. He never said a word to me about it, just went back to what he was doing. I fixed the amp later that afternoon, but the dude that brought it in never came to pick it up. We eventually had to sell it to get our parts and labor back. I hope I got all the roach egg sacks out of it. Terry D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scheming Demon Posted October 8, 2005 Members Share Posted October 8, 2005 So, one night not too long ago I was walking through an alley after a gig. I had my guitar and crate amp when I got jumped by a couple thugs. They started running off with my guitar and amp. The guitar got away but I think I remember hearing my amp fall near someone's garbage right before I lost consciousness. No .... just kidding but did I scare you for second? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members one4rich Posted October 8, 2005 Members Share Posted October 8, 2005 Originally posted by MrKnobs When I was putting myself through undergrad, I worked as an amp repairman. One day a dude brought in a really nasty looking old Traynor Bass head for repair. A couple days later when I got around to tackling it, I brought it out in the center of the sales floor (I worked in a music store) to take it apart. The moment I pulled the chassis out of the case, the whole thing totally exploded roaches in every direction. They ran up my arms, they ran across my face, they spread in every direction of the compass like a massive insectoid oil slick from the wreck of the Exxon Valdez! There were literally thousands of roaches of all sizes. I was so startled all I could do was grip the amp harder as the gross bug avalanche ran all over me. The owner of the store came out from behind the counter wielding a huge can of Raid as if it were a fire extinguisher, and hosed me, the amp, and the circle of expanding roaches down until all were dead or dying. He didn't say a word, and his expression never changed. When the can was empty, he walked right over to the service log and added "$40 extermination fee" to the ticket on the amp. He never said a word to me about it, just went back to what he was doing. I fixed the amp later that afternoon, but the dude that brought it in never came to pick it up. We eventually had to sell it to get our parts and labor back. I hope I got all the roach egg sacks out of it. Terry D. EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members arashi Posted October 8, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 8, 2005 Scheming Demon -So, one night not too long ago I was walking through an alley after a gig. I had my guitar and crate amp when I got jumped by a couple thugs. I do recall a lot of blood near the mouth of the alley. but I didn't really think anything of it. Hmm. Weird coincidence. Nope. not really fooled Demon hehe But I was kinda expecting to see a "Hey you got my amp!" post. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seahorse Posted October 9, 2005 Members Share Posted October 9, 2005 Originally posted by arashi .. Anyone use one of these? I'm not familiar and crate doesn;t even have the manuals anymore. The manual is down in the basement where you "found" the amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lee Flier Posted October 9, 2005 Members Share Posted October 9, 2005 Originally posted by MrKnobs The moment I pulled the chassis out of the case, the whole thing totally exploded roaches in every direction. They ran up my arms, they ran across my face, they spread in every direction of the compass like a massive insectoid oil slick from the wreck of the Exxon Valdez! There were literally thousands of roaches of all sizes. Oh. THOSE kind of roaches. EWWW! I used to work out of this studio in L.A. that had a wonderful old API console. One day I booked a session there after not having been there for a year or two... and it had changed ownership since then. Apparently, the new owners didn't maintain the gear very well, because when I fired up the console, roaches started crawling out of the fader slots! I always wondered if I missed a big opportunity - maybe I could've turned it into an "automated" console by training the roaches to move the faders at appropriate times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zekmoe Posted October 10, 2005 Members Share Posted October 10, 2005 Originally posted by arashi ...through my alley. I look over at something near a trach can that catches my eye. It's an old Crate G120c amp. 2x60 wts with 2x12 speakers. etc Anyone use one of these? I'm not familiar and crate doesn;t even have the manuals anymore. woohoo! That amp was right where it belonged. Still, great find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scafeets Posted October 10, 2005 Members Share Posted October 10, 2005 The amp probably commited suicide and threw itself out the window.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PBBPaul Posted October 10, 2005 Members Share Posted October 10, 2005 Many years ago, I had an electronics store in a not-too-great part of town. We had a Laotian guy named Phat who used to hang around occasionally. Phat was a strange little guy with long, stringy hair and two-inch brown finger nails who wore old fatigues all the time. One ay he brought in a VCR that had a tape jammed in it. I thought, what the hell, I can get this out for him so I removed the cover and the same thing... it was jammed solid with roaches. I could just make out the "Playboy Allstars" video tape stuck in there. Fortunately, I didn't disturb too many roaches and quickly put the cover back on, sealed the VCR in plastic and sent it to our central repair facility. I'm sure they were pleased with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members one4rich Posted October 11, 2005 Members Share Posted October 11, 2005 Now THAT'S funny! I wonder if any of the roaches survived being deprived of oxygen. Is it true that they can survive *anything*? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ripping Rudy Posted October 11, 2005 Members Share Posted October 11, 2005 I found a perfectly good classical guitar in the garbage at our old apartment building. It was made by the Suzuki Violin Company. It recently met an unfortunate end at the hands of my nephew but it was great while it lasted. Nothing like found treasure!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators MrKnobs Posted October 11, 2005 Moderators Share Posted October 11, 2005 Originally posted by one4rich Now THAT'S funny! I wonder if any of the roaches survived being deprived of oxygen. Is it true that they can survive *anything*? They'd stay alive in that plastic bag for a very long time. Death would probably be due to dehydration when it eventually occurred. Roaches aren't invulnerable, but they're mighty tough. Terry D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Raskolnikovs axe Posted October 11, 2005 Members Share Posted October 11, 2005 Once I found a roach in my laundry room and I tried to kill it with an ice-scraper from my car - it just happend to be the first thing i grabbed. Instead of squashing it, I accidentally cut it in two right under the head, so that the head had 2 legs and the body had 4. Both pieces were still trying to crawl away. This just amazed me, and I prodded each piece a little bit with the scraper to see how they'd respond...the head was more responsive, but even the headless body clearly reacted and moved itself away from what was disturbing it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sideswipedv Posted October 11, 2005 Members Share Posted October 11, 2005 EWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vanlatte Posted October 12, 2005 Members Share Posted October 12, 2005 Originally posted by one4rich Now THAT'S funny! I wonder if any of the roaches survived being deprived of oxygen. Is it true that they can survive *anything*? Anything but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators MrKnobs Posted October 12, 2005 Moderators Share Posted October 12, 2005 Originally posted by Raskolnikovs axe Once I found a roach in my laundry room and I tried to kill it with an ice-scraper from my car - it just happend to be the first thing i grabbed. Instead of squashing it, I accidentally cut it in two right under the head, so that the head had 2 legs and the body had 4. Both pieces were still trying to crawl away. This just amazed me, and I prodded each piece a little bit with the scraper to see how they'd respond...the head was more responsive, but even the headless body clearly reacted and moved itself away from what was disturbing it!!! Roaches have fibers on the back end that connect directly to their nervous system. This is so if something attempts to attack them from the back, they immediately run without the signal ever going through their brain. Can you imagine what it would be like if you legs suddenly started running on their own when something touched you from behind? Terry D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators MrKnobs Posted October 12, 2005 Moderators Share Posted October 12, 2005 Originally posted by one4rich Now THAT'S funny! I wonder if any of the roaches survived being deprived of oxygen. Is it true that they can survive *anything*? There are a couple of things besides the boot (they can withstand being compressed to about 1/4 of their size without harm, by the way) that will kill them. My favorite growing up was oven cleaner or typewriter platen cleaner. Both solvents dissolve chitin, which roaches are made of. Just one little drop on their back will widen to a hole the size of a dime or larger as they run away. However, my nomination for most effective and dangerous chemical goes to Dimilin (diflubenzuron), an enzymatic organophosphate chitin synthesis inhibitor. Insects can't grow without molting since they have a rigid chitin exoskeleton. If there's even a few molecules of Dimilin around, the insects will shed the old exoskeleton but be unable to grow a new one. Result: horribly mutated and dead insect. Dimilin is so deadly because only a very tiny amount is needed to kill, and because the Dimilin itself is not used up in the process, it just stays in the environment and keeps on killing and killing - everything and I mean EVERYTHING that needs chitin to live. I put just one quarter of a gram in my 300 gallon koi pond a few summers ago to kill out the anchor worms that were infesting my koi, and within a month my entire backyard and part of the surrounding neighborhood had been transformed to the scenario in Rachel Carson's "Silent Spring." No insect alive for a hundred meters around my pond. No crickets singing at night, no fire ant nests, no roaches, no dragonflies, no mosquitos, no butterflies feeding on my flowers, no pillbugs gnawing at their roots, no caterpillars munching down on the leaves, no house flies, no water striders gliding under the waterfall of my pond, no nothing. All dead. That was pretty bad, but it didn't change after a month or even six months. I finally completely changed out the pond water before the insects gradually came back. Changing out 1/2 the water four times didn't reduce the concentration enough. One quarter of a gram. That's just 0.0022 lbs, or 0.035 oz. A small paperclip weighs four times that much. Scary! Terry D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Edward Posted October 14, 2005 Members Share Posted October 14, 2005 Originally posted by MrKnobs The owner of the store came out from behind the counter wielding a huge can of Raid as if it were a fire extinguisher, and hosed me, the amp, and the circle of expanding roaches down until all were dead or dying. He didn't say a word, and his expression never changed. Sounds to me like either this had happened before, or he was expecting it!! That must have been disturbing.... i hate roaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Base Posted October 14, 2005 Members Share Posted October 14, 2005 Originally posted by MrKnobs However, my nomination for most effective and dangerous chemical goes to Dimilin (diflubenzuron), an enzymatic organophosphate chitin synthesis inhibitor. Insects can't grow without molting since they have a rigid chitin exoskeleton. If there's even a few molecules of Dimilin around, the insects will shed the old exoskeleton but be unable to grow a new one. Result: horribly mutated and dead insect. Well, that would have made Starship Troopers a much shorter movie...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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