Members arashi Posted November 5, 2005 Members Share Posted November 5, 2005 Good grief it's a pain in the butt! It seems to be easier for me when I play my own songs and I am trying to write stuff geared toward this but I don't see how some of you guys can do it. especially the really intense songs. Just say Strapping young lad and how Dev can sing and play what he does is just mindboggling. Any tips/advice/stories? I can see goofing this up big at least early on. hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members b-lance Posted November 5, 2005 Members Share Posted November 5, 2005 um, just practice? i sing and play simlutaneously, but i just practice nonstop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twostone Posted November 5, 2005 Members Share Posted November 5, 2005 I was once in your shoes 25 years ago I thought the same thing but I practice easy songs first then moved on to more advance you can't rush it just takes alot of time and patience. I still have to practice my butt of on new tunes, but over time you'll get better and it becomes a little more easier because you'll understand how melodoes and phrasing works good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitar Centaur Posted November 5, 2005 Members Share Posted November 5, 2005 I try to get the guitar parts down first, memorizing them so I don't have to think about playing them. The singing requires more emotion, so it's the one you want to be concentrating on. The playing should be all muscle memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wikwox Posted November 5, 2005 Members Share Posted November 5, 2005 Dun it fer years, it'll come to ya' with practice. Singing over syncopation is hardest but can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sideswipedv Posted November 5, 2005 Members Share Posted November 5, 2005 yeah ive been playing for years and i still have trouble singing and playing some rythms. I just keep practicing till i get'em or i give that part to the other guitarist in my band and just sing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Krashpad Posted November 5, 2005 Members Share Posted November 5, 2005 It's never been a problem for me, but than I tend to sing rhythmically straightforward songs. I learned guitar primarily as a rhyhm acoustic player for folkie type stuff, and the whole point of that stuff is to sing along. I imagine that would be good stuff to practice with. I've gotten to the point that if I'm real careful and concentrate I can even sing while playing bass, which is a lot harder. BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jeffery.addison Posted November 5, 2005 Members Share Posted November 5, 2005 I am so uncoordinated that I have problems rubbing my tummy and patting my head at the same time...but what I do is learn my bass parts independantly and separately from the vocal harmonies...then I combine them. It works for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ulank Posted November 6, 2005 Members Share Posted November 6, 2005 Call me crazy, but I like to think of it as similar to playing drums. While playing, you have to simultaneously be in sync, while not letting your hands know what your mouth is doing. While practicing though, it's good to use "ryhthmic relativity" to help figure out when you're supposed to sing each syllable. Map out on which notes each syllable falls if you have to so you can visualize what's going on. However, once you get it down from a rhythmic aspect, you have to let go of that and sing with more freedom. Just like guitar, there's nothing wrong with a little creative, loose phrasing to add some spice to vocal lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members worthyjoe Posted November 8, 2005 Members Share Posted November 8, 2005 Originally posted by Crustycabs I try to get the guitar parts down first, memorizing them so I don't have to think about playing them.The singing requires more emotion, so it's the one you want to be concentrating on. The playing should be all muscle memory. I couldn't agree with this more. Once I learn a song I never think about the chords I am playing in terms of name. I just remember where my hand needs to go and concentrate on singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scarlet Cris Posted November 9, 2005 Members Share Posted November 9, 2005 Being the only guitar player and the only harmonizer at one point, I had to learn how to play rhythm AND lead parts while singing.... Either you learn the guitar part so well you don't think about it....or if it's really complicated I'll slow down the guitar part and sing over it to see where the words are in terms of the guitar rhythm... Scarlet Sins Official Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DonaldDemon Posted November 9, 2005 Members Share Posted November 9, 2005 Originally posted by Scarlet Cris Being the only guitar player and the only harmonizer at one point, I had to learn how to play rhythm AND lead parts while singing....Either you learn the guitar part so well you don't think about it....or if it's really complicated I'll slow down the guitar part and sing over it to see where the words are in terms of the guitar rhythm...Scarlet Sins Official Website Same troubles here. I am the lead singer and only guitarist in our 3 piece band. I tend to write alot of riff-based songs and I frequently make guitar parts that are too copmlicated for me to sing over. I am not a strummer type of guitarist but I have learned it is better to dumb down parts that have vocals so I can concentrate on singing and just use the riffs in between verses. Generally I don't like making things easy on myself so I just play the song a hundred times so it becomes second nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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