Moderators MrKnobs Posted November 30, 2005 Author Moderators Share Posted November 30, 2005 Me, I think I'm a bad guy. Because bad is smooth as glass for me, good is swimming against the current and the second I rest I'm swept out to sea. It would all be soooo easy, except I don't want to be a bad guy. So why am I so good at being bad and so bad at being good? Terry D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members madjack Posted November 30, 2005 Members Share Posted November 30, 2005 Originally posted by MrKnobs Me, I think I'm a bad guy.Because bad is smooth as glass for me, good is swimming against the current and the second I rest I'm swept out to sea.It would all be soooo easy, except I don't want to be a bad guy.So why am I so good at being bad and so bad at being good?Terry D. That's not just you, Terry. I believe that is a fairly concise statement of the majority of human-kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheBeatButcher Posted November 30, 2005 Members Share Posted November 30, 2005 Originally posted by MrKnobs Me, I think I'm a bad guy. Because bad is smooth as glass for me, good is swimming against the current and the second I rest I'm swept out to sea. It would all be soooo easy, except I don't want to be a bad guy. So why am I so good at being bad and so bad at being good? Terry D. You're just romanticizing your ego. You ain't close to "bad" . . . "bad" guys don't have your post count. A truly "bad" guy would've put his foot up his wife's ass for just daring to suggest that he might want to think about going back to work, not actually go back to work.A "bad" guy is balls balls deep in his mistress at this hour.And "bad" guys don't have any guilt.You're light years from "bad".I think your problem is, you NEED to be "bad" right now, but y'ain't got the bottle. You've created such a scaffolding of your own illusions, and it took so long, and you love it so much, and gain so much identity from it, you ain't "bad" enough to bring it down.Get in the truck, T. Get in it, drive, and don't look back.Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jimi Ray Halen Posted November 30, 2005 Members Share Posted November 30, 2005 Being bad is easy. Just do whatever you want. {censored} everybody. It's doing right that's difficult. Chicken{censored}s duck and run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators MrKnobs Posted November 30, 2005 Author Moderators Share Posted November 30, 2005 Originally posted by madjack That's not just you, Terry. I believe that is a fairly concise statement of the majority of human-kind. My observation is that most people are generally kinda mediocre at both - being good and being bad. I'm seriously good at being bad. It just comes naturally to me. Terry D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators MrKnobs Posted November 30, 2005 Author Moderators Share Posted November 30, 2005 Originally posted by TheBeatButcher You're just romanticizing your ego. You ain't close to "bad" . . . Ah, Joe. I love you, man. Only you could read into my sad post above that I'm proud of being a bad guy. "bad" guys don't have your post count. Why? 'cause they're too busy being bad? What about really efficient bad guys? What if posting here is a way of being bad? A truly "bad" guy would've put his foot up his wife's ass for just daring to suggest that he might want to think about going back to work, not actually go back to work.It's part of a wife's job to take her husband's ego down a notch when required. Surely you approve of that, given what you wrote above? I actually appreciate criticism, so long as it's well thought out. It's important to keep a few clever enemies around to tell you things your friends won't. A good wife is a little of both. A "bad" guy is balls balls deep in his mistress at this hour. Been there done that, long time ago. That's not "bad," that's just petty and selfish. Besides, being asexual takes the luster off that temptation, so to speak. If I were to do that, my motivation would have to be more complex than the usual lust and attention thing. And "bad" guys don't have any guilt.What you're describing is a sociopath. I spent many years of my life like that, completely free of conscience - as I related in my groupie story. But I'll tell you something about bad people: even the most f'd up sociopath has some sort of moral code, some tender spot. A serial killer might treat a kitten tenderly, or threaten someone who kicked a dog, for example. Just as "badness" is part of every human being's character, so is goodness. Mother Teresa certainly must have had some things to be ashamed of, just as Ted Bundy might have had a few things to be proud of. It's just human nature. You're light years from "bad". If so, why would that make you ":mad:" I think your problem is, you NEED to be "bad" right now, but y'ain't got the bottle. You've created such a scaffolding of your own illusions, and it took so long, and you love it so much, and gain so much identity from it, you ain't "bad" enough to bring it down. I appreciate the specifics you constructed, and I forgive you for them being so off target. After all, you only know me through postings on an internet forum. I don't have *any* illusions at all; I'm painfully and blissfully aware that I'm completely irrelevant to the universe. Of course I could be wrong, if so please feel free to name one or two. My "identity" as you call it, however IS very much in question. Get in the truck, T. Get in it, drive, and don't look back. Joe Are you SURE you're not "Terry Knobs" as your sig insists? Sometimes you sound like a segmented part of my mind making a case for the alternate action. But no, I'm not the running kind, at least not anymore. I made some commitments, and I'll keep them all if I'm able. Love you like a brother. Terry D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ulank Posted November 30, 2005 Members Share Posted November 30, 2005 That's easy. I'm Batman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheBeatButcher Posted November 30, 2005 Members Share Posted November 30, 2005 Originally posted by MrKnobs Ah, Joe. I love you, man. Only you could read into my sad post above that I'm proud of being a bad guy. "bad" guys don't have your post count. Why? 'cause they're too busy being bad? What about really efficient bad guys? What if posting here is a way of being bad? A truly "bad" guy would've put his foot up his wife's ass for just daring to suggest that he might want to think about going back to work, not actually go back to work. It's part of a wife's job to take her husband's ego down a notch when required. Surely you approve of that, given what you wrote above? If it comes from spirit, absolutely, but when she does it, it's just because it threatens her ego. At least the stories you've told on OJ reflect that. Originally posted by MrKnobs I actually appreciate criticism, so long as it's well thought out. It's important to keep a few clever enemies around to tell you things your friends won't. A good wife is a little of both. There's a place way beyond that. Originally posted by MrKnobs I appreciate the specifics you constructed, and I forgive you for them being so off target. After all, you only know me through postings on an internet forum. I don't have *any* illusions at all; I'm painfully and blissfully aware that I'm completely irrelevant to the universe. Of course I could be wrong, if so please feel free to name one or two. Ok. You seem to think you have an idea of what love is. You don't. Just who you're with is a clear indication that you don't. A man who knows what love is has it in his heart . . . it IS him, and a man who is love would be 1,000,000 miles away from your wife. She'd run away screaming from him, anyway.Such a tough girl. Also, and I don't know if you just haven't mentioned it, or you're laboring under the illusion that it isn't a part of you, but all of your recent difficulties are part of your unresolved shadow: from your speeding/other tickets, to the work drama, to the wife drama. Originally posted by MrKnobs But no, I'm not the running kind, at least not anymore. I made some commitments, and I'll keep them all if I'm able. Even if it kills you. As we've all learned from "The Young Ones", you can never get the last nail in . . . give it up, T.Why did you make those commitments, and and what price? Your first commitment is to yourself. You've neglected that, and it's literally killing you. You've got a suffering servant mentality, thinking you'll be rewarded in some imaginary afterlife for it, or you're working through some past "bad" karma.I'm sorry to say you won't, and you're not.Live from your own heart, T, consequences be damned. Dare to give it all up, and start over, if that's what you FEEL is your strongest path. Your "commitments" are irrelevant . . . they're all ego-based, and are actually doing all parties more harm than good, in the bigger scheme of things. Your wife would become a much stronger person without your enabling ass around.Another one of your illusions may be that you feel that you're good for her.Joep.s. what is YOUR definition of "bad"p.p.s. give me your wife's cell-phone number. i need to straighten her out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators MrKnobs Posted November 30, 2005 Author Moderators Share Posted November 30, 2005 Originally posted by TheBeatButcher Ok. You seem to think you have an idea of what love is. You don't. Just who you're with is a clear indication that you don't. A man who knows what love is has it in his heart . . . it IS him, and a man who is love would be 1,000,000 miles away from your wife. I don't know what love is? Huh? Even Forrest Gump knows what love is, bro. And so do I. Matter of fact, my wife pretty much taught me what love is - I had forgotten for a while. Love is a lot of things to different people (I think you're proof of that!) but one thing that characterizes mature love is caring about the other person as much as you care about yourself. Accepting them for who they are, and allowing (even encouraging) them to grow and be the best person they can and want to be. Sometimes that requires telling them things they need to hear but don't want to hear. But mostly it's a joy. If you accept that definition of love, then I love my wife and my wife loves me. For the last 22 years, in fact. I guess we must be doing something right? By the way, to be a million miles away from someone you'd need a spaceship. The farthest you can be from someone and still be on Earth is about 12,000 miles. Sorry, I'm at work and in scientist mode. She'd run away screaming from him, anyway. Such a tough girl. She is tough, that's true. Nothing wrong with that, is there? Also, and I don't know if you just haven't mentioned it, or you're laboring under the illusion that it isn't a part of you, but all of your recent difficulties are part of your unresolved shadow: from your speeding/other tickets, to the work drama, to the wife drama. The tickets aren't my fault (car had a bad speedo), but the failure to appear was. The work drama is only my fault in that I could quit any time to get away from the stress, the rest of it I had no control over. However, if I were to quit (and not immediately take a job in some other town) the odds are my career as a scientist would be over. That's a pretty risky move at 53. Now if my band had an album on the Billboard charts, maybe.... Wife drama? There's no wife drama. We had a discussion about my work situation, our financial future, etc. as any couple would do when a big change comes. She thought it was irresponsible of me to retire and do music. But guess what, I retired anyway against her wishes because I was right. Retiring and coming back half time nets me $3,000/month MORE than my full time take home pay was, and for only working 20/hrs week. Since they hired this racist, homophobic, homicidal egotistical maniac to run our pavements program, I didn't see much future for myself in writing for structural grants. So I slipped sideways into acoustics and black ice instrumention, and now I'm viable at 20h/wk. They even gave me a big raise for coming back. So did I make the wise, responsible decision or not? Yes, I had considered staying away from here entirely since the stress put me in the ER on Jan 4th. But now that I don't work for the new guy anymore, I only have to endure his occasional threats when we're alone in the stairwell. That's different because I can laugh at him and walk away. Before, he was my supervisor and he'd schedule meetings from 9-12 with just the two us, so he could threaten me for three hours straight. My wife couldn't really understand what I was going through at work (it sounds pretty unbelievable just reading what I wrote) but she nevertheless was right and I was wrong. There were other ways to continue my career and still get the stress off, and I found them just as she knew I would. Even if it kills you. Something kills us all eventually. At least now I know what my medical issues are and can deal with them. But seriously, I hear your concern for me and I very much appreciate it. As we've all learned from "The Young Ones", you can never get the last nail in . . . give it up, T. Don't know the show. Why did you make those commitments, and and what price? Your first commitment is to yourself. You've neglected that, and it's literally killing you. You've got a suffering servant mentality, thinking you'll be rewarded in some imaginary afterlife for it, or you're working through some past "bad" karma.We have such a disconnect here. I don't think I'll get a reward for doing what's right in ANY life, this one or the hypothetical next one. Nevertheless, it's very important to me that I do what's right for my family, and keep my word to my friends and employer. Not just for them, for me, because it's the right thing to do. And no, my first commitment is not to myself, in fact I'm in third place. I'll let you figure out who or what the first two are. But I do agree that I need to take care of myself healthwise or I'm of no use to anyone. I don't have any sort of martyr complex. I'm sorry to say you won't, and you're not.Well, I actually agree with that, but it's pretty arrogant of you to say it. Live from your own heart, T, consequences be damned. Dare to give it all up, and start over, if that's what you FEEL is your strongest path. Your "commitments" are irrelevant . . . they're all ego-based, and are actually doing all parties more harm than good, in the bigger scheme of things. Your wife would become a much stronger person without your enabling ass around.I'm not the sort of person who crashes around like a bull in a china shop, careless of others. I will always consider others' needs and the commitments I've made in any decision. I believe that is "right" and what you've said is "wrong," ethically speaking. You're entitled to your opinion, of course. That's what this is all about. I'm "enabling" my wife? Joe, my wife is the most amazing, strongest, smartest woman I've ever had the pleasure to know so well. If anything, she's enabling me. If you're ever in town, please give me a call and we'll all go out for dinner. You need to meet my real wife, not the (apparently) distorted portrait I've painted on these forums. Another one of your illusions may be that you feel that you're good for her.I sure hope that I am, I work hard to be. It's not enough to just be good TO somebody, you have to be good FOR them as well. p.s. what is YOUR definition of "bad" Bad can mean a lot of things. For instance, Yngvie and I both are "bad" on guitar, but when people say that about us they don't mean it the same way. I don't know the context of your question. p.p.s. give me your wife's cell-phone number. i need to straighten her out. You might end up getting "straightened out" yourself, she doesn't take crap from anybody. But if you mean talking to her about my retirement, my keyboard player tried that. He got his ears pinned back pretty good, he's kind of afraid of her now. Terry D.P.S. 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Members cavemanic Posted December 1, 2005 Members Share Posted December 1, 2005 to me 'music=freedom' and I guess 'freedom' is what I try to pursue in life prolly on a much bigger scale than the average person thats the one thing I can easily define myself by..from the sports I am into , my fav films, music, lifestyle etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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