Members Brian Krashpad Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 OK. At the outset, lemme say that the subject of our discussion is a fait accompli; the deed has already been done, and I'm ready to let the chips fall where they may. That being said, here's the scoop. Next Thursday my main (punk rock and roll) band is making our re-debut (for the umpteenth time in our almost decade-long existence) with a new line-up. An H-C forumite from a couple hours north, who I've corresponded with for some time about just such a thing, is coming to our town to share the bill, so I'm doubly excited about the show. His is a new-school punk band. But here's the rub. The house, unbeknownst to us, has paired us with 2 bands whose fans will very probably hate us just as sure as our friends/fans will hate them (we've been told as much by our friends; my rhythm guitarist actively hates one of the two bands and could very well get in a punch-up with their drummer, with whom I've just learned he's had a prior run-in of some sort). Being an admitted Situationist and having no problem with making the worst of a bad circumstance (all in good fun of course), albeit before learning of my rhythm guitarist's prior run-in with the other band's drummer, I made up the follwing flyer and sent it in to our local band/scene promo site: Some would consider "frat rock" a derogatory term, but from all objective evidence I've been able to gather, it's applicable here. I suppose the same could be said of "punk rock" or any other label. The co-headliner (if you will, no one actually wants to close) has recently been featured in a piece in an admittedly frat-friendly (to put it mildly) local mag, though in fact they have stated that no one in their band is actually a member of a frat. My take is that the bill itself is a negative, why not play it up as a positive and instill some spirited competition? I'd rather their fans get all pissed at us and throw {censored}, rather than just walk out when we take the stage. Any reaction is better than none. I figure any band that can't stand up to a little ribbing, or even fan hostility, doesn't need to be standing onstage in the first instance. So, am I being a dick? It's OK if you say yes. BK PS-- the logos of the two bands used are from their websites. The graphic for the "frat rock" side is taken from a photo of one of those two bands, the graphic for the "punk rock" side is likewise from an actual gig photo of my band
Members TrancedelicBlues Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 Originally posted by Brian Krashpad OK. At the outset, lemme say that the subject of our discussion is a fait accompli; the deed has already been done, and I'm ready to let the chips fall where they may. That being said, here's the scoop. Next Thursday my main (punk rock and roll) band is making our re-debut (for the umpteenth time in our almost decade-long existence) with a new line-up. An H-C forumite from a couple hours north, who I've corresponded with for some time about just such a thing, is coming to our town to share the bill, so I'm doubly excited about the show. His is a new-school punk band. But here's the rub. The house, unbeknownst to us, has paired us with 2 bands whose fans will very probably hate us just as sure as our friends/fans will hate them (we've been told as much by our friends; my rhythm guitarist actively hates one of the two bands and could very well get in a punch-up with their drummer, with whom I've just learned he's had a prior run-in of some sort). Being an admitted Situationist and having no problem with making the worst of a bad circumstance (all in good fun of course), albeit before learning of my rhythm guitarist's prior run-in with the other band's drummer, I made up the follwing flyer and sent it in to our local band/scene promo site: Some would consider "frat rock" a derogatory term, but from all objective evidence I've been able to gather, it's applicable here. I suppose the same could be said of "punk rock" or any other label. The co-headliner (if you will, no one actually wants to close) has recently been featured in a piece in an admittedly frat-friendly (to put it mildly) local mag, though in fact they have stated that no one in their band is actually a member of a frat. My take is that the bill itself is a negative, why not play it up as a positive and instill some spirited competition? I'd rather their fans get all pissed at us and throw {censored}, rather than just walk out when we take the stage. Any reaction is better than none. I figure any band that can't stand up to a little ribbing, or even fan hostility, doesn't need to be standing onstage in the first instance. So, am I being a dick? It's OK if you say yes. BK PS-- the logos of the two bands used are from their websites. The graphic for the "frat rock" side is taken from a photo of one of those two bands, the graphic for the "punk rock" side is likewise from an actual gig photo of my band Yes you're being a dick
Members doubleR Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 All I can say is....we expect to see pics of this gig the following day!
Members Brian Krashpad Posted December 1, 2005 Author Members Posted December 1, 2005 Originally posted by TrancedelicBlues Yes you're being a dick Haha! I like to think, at least, that I have a sense of humor and can take {censored} so long as it's also thrown in good humor. We've actually had more words spoken f*cking with us onstage from other punk and skunk (ska-punk) bands on bills with us than we've ever had from bands of other genres. Not sure how the other bands will take this, but hell, the odds of us ever playing together again are slim and none anyhow. No pain, no gain. BK
Members TrancedelicBlues Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 Originally posted by doubleR All I can say is....we expect to see pics of this gig the following day! :thu:
Members Brian Krashpad Posted December 1, 2005 Author Members Posted December 1, 2005 Originally posted by doubleR All I can say is....we expect to see pics of this gig the following day! Haha, touche'! Barring unforeseen cicumstance, you will indeed! At present our website has NO photos of the full current membership, and that's just wrong! Maybe even some action shots offstage if our rhythm guitarist does get in a punch up. Though the kid is so skinny, he becomes invisible if he stands sideways. Maybe he'll be hard to hit. BK
Members TrancedelicBlues Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 Originally posted by Brian Krashpad Haha! I like to think, at least, that I have a sense of humor BK I'm pretty sure you're good in that department, bro
Members Tedster Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 I think it's groovy, myself. Making it look like either a) A boxing poster b) A wrestling "rage in a cage" poster c) A Japanese monster movie poster. Cool.
Members droge Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 Krashpad: dude, you better wear a helmet and a flak jacket/bulletproof vest--hopefully, everyone gets the 'joke' and can have a little laugh, but get ready for any animosity, too. Sounds like a 'good time'--let us know how it went down, nevertheless!!!
Members joestanman Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 Yeah im down... it's dickish... but funny. So funny > being a dick. If they don't get joke then {censored} em. If they were smart they would make their own flyers.
Moderators daddymack Posted December 1, 2005 Moderators Posted December 1, 2005 BK...use that punk 'tude, man...f*ck them whiny pop playing @$$#0!&$.... odds are your fans will eat their fans for lunch...
Members Guitar Centaur Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 I'd pay good money to watch you guys kick the {censored} outta each other....
Members e-b-e Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 If actual {censored} is indeed flung, please don't post those pics....NASTY! Maybe make a poster that says you'll hate one of these bands, and love the other. And write that each band hates eachother as well. Make the most of it, hopefully the show will go well and who knows, maybe playing with enemies/rivals will prove to be a good show!
Members Brian Krashpad Posted December 1, 2005 Author Members Posted December 1, 2005 Originally posted by daddymack BK...use that punk 'tude, man...f*ck them whiny pop playing @$$#0!&$.... odds are your fans will eat their fans for lunch... From what I've heard so far, both our fans saw the other half of the bill and are staying home, or going elsewhere. We're on our own. But that's OK. "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." BK
Members wvukilroy Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 If I lived even remotely close by, I would go just to watch the chaos. Seriously, how are your fans skipping out on the potential for band-on-band carnage? I can't think of a better way to promote this, it rules that you did it that way.
Members brassic Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 It could go either way. It depends on whether the other band and their fans see "frat rock" as a derogatory term, or more to the point, that YOU see it as a derogatory term. The flyer itself doesn't look like it's favoring one band over the other - anyone taking offense at it is just being a baby. Promotionswise, I think you took the best angle possible. If both bands' fans decided to stay away simply because of the other, you need a hook to get them back. That all being said... Get ready to RUUUUMBLLLLLLLE!
Members Brian Krashpad Posted December 1, 2005 Author Members Posted December 1, 2005 Originally posted by brassic It could go either way. It depends on whether the other band and their fans see "frat rock" as a derogatory term, or more to the point, that YOU see it as a derogatory term. The flyer itself doesn't look like it's favoring one band over the other - anyone taking offense at it is just being a baby. Promotionswise, I think you took the best angle possible. If both bands' fans decided to stay away simply because of the other, you need a hook to get them back. That all being said... Get ready to RUUUUMBLLLLLLLE! Haha. my thought is, if they complain about it, I'll do an "amended" flier with "Frat" crossed out and "Good" written in above it, and with "punk" crossed out and "Bad" written in above that. BK
Members brassic Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 Originally posted by Brian Krashpad I'll do an "amended" flier with "Frat" crossed out and "Good" written in above it, and with "punk" crossed out and "Bad" written in above that. Good vs Evil, Tuneful vs Torrential, Drunk vs Drunker...it could go on forever...
Members etcetera Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 Brian Krashpad wrote-From what I've heard so far, both our fans saw the other half of the bill and are staying home, or going elsewhere. Dude,sorry to hear "both" your fans will not be there but that's just 2 less fans ? Ha !This sounds like the old "battle of the bands" situation. I've learned over the years that nobody really likes it ! Most people,young or old, just want to hear good bands play good music. If they wanted to see whiney bastards yelling at each other well,,,,they might as well stay home and listen to their whiney bastard of a spouse : )
Members Brian Krashpad Posted December 1, 2005 Author Members Posted December 1, 2005 Originally posted by etcetera Brian Krashpad wrote-From what I've heard so far, both our fans saw the other half of the bill and are staying home, or going elsewhere. Dude,sorry to hear "both" your fans will not be there but that's just 2 less fans ? Ha ! Actually, two was an exaggeration. We're a punk band. We have NO fans. My wife won't even come see us. Originally posted by etcetera This sounds like the old "battle of the bands" situation. I've learned over the years that nobody really likes it ! Most people,young or old, just want to hear good bands play good music. If they wanted to see whiney bastards yelling at each other well,,,,they might as well stay home and listen to their whiney bastard of a spouse : ) You're taking the flyer too literally. It's just an angle for an advert. Because of the split bill it can't be sold as either a mainsteam rock show or a punk rock show. BK
Members Zeopold Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 Labels schmabels Nobody will care as long as you rock them
Members bonscottvocals Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 Whoever booked that pairing is as smart as the guy who put Hendrix on tour with the Monkees - not too brite. Look at the brightside, you might win one fan, and you'd have a following.
Members MoreGuitars Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 Isn't being in a punk band all about being a dick?
Members Brian Krashpad Posted December 1, 2005 Author Members Posted December 1, 2005 Originally posted by MoreGuitars Isn't being in a punk band all about being a dick? Of course it is! Man, one of the first punk shows I ever saw, in the early 80's, was the semi-legendary local band Roach Motel (who were friends and acquaintances of mine, my bassist played drums for them) playing in the basement of a dorm hall. Within a half-hour, they had frat boys throwing CHAIRS at them. Absolute genius. I knew I had found my true calling. Though I've still never managed to get furniture thrown at me. Yet. BK
Members jackcheez Posted December 1, 2005 Members Posted December 1, 2005 It all looks like a plus to me. Smart. Rock smart. You're making the most out of something you can't change. If anybody's worried about it, tell them to consult an astrologer.
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