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EGO! Has it been a problem for you?


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I have noticed many threads here are fairly negitive on the subject of band dynamics.

 

Lazy drummers, dictators as band leaders, etc.

 

How has musician egos effected your musical efforts?

 

By the way . .

THIS IS MY FIRST THREAD START.

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It's not a problem at all in my current band (nor my side band). We're all actually very deferential and respectful toward each other and give each other free rein for ideas and input. I've had issues with people in the past but I don't work with people like that for long - they're no fun at all.

 

Congrats on your first thread start. :D:wave:

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Yeah, ego hasn't been a real issue for me either. I work with a bounch of mature musicians. There are always differences between us, personality differences and such, but no jerks.

 

Has anyone ever had to deal with leaders that demanded perfection?

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I had terrible problems with my past bass player's ego, control freak issues and drug use. Every gig would be drama and some kind of conflict. he even called up after we'd split up and the conversation went:

 

"Hey, would you mind if we use you songs in our new band?"

 

"No man, I really wish you wouldn't"

 

" Well, were going to and you can't stop us"

 

"Then why the {censored} did you ask?"

 

(Now he'd have the ultimate control over MY songs)

 

It really hurt because he was my best friend, but life and especially music has been so much better since he's out.

I'm working with the greatest drummer now. We had a stellar gig last night. And there is no ego problem at all.

It's fun to work with adults.....

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In my experience the most troublesome members are the singers. Our current one...well, she has been cool up until we went into a studio to record our first demo. All of a sudden she turns quite unprofessional and weird. I don't know what happened.

 

Apart from that all's been great; the bass player and the drummer are great guys to work with.

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Bull{censored}, egos suck. I played with a drummer in my area that's a major player in this area (a member of the musicians hick-click), he has very very limited talents and nothing but ego going for him, he barley taps on his drums and the sound guy has to boost up the P.A. to make him heard. Any way , years ago, we played a local gig and he got very jealous that my playing stood out from his playing and his jealously took over him. I was getting compliments from people at the show about my playing while he was burning from envy. Soon I was out of the band which was okay because I didn't have to put up with his hussy fits of jealousy. I got some standards that people take as an ego, but I believe that a musicians music and playing should do the talking not the ego. Usually people with bad attitude use their egos to compensate for their lack of talent, plus 99% of people with stage names are usually full of {censored}.:D I just let my fingers do the talking:D :thu: To quote the Great Joe Perry of Aerosmith fame..........Let the Music Do the Talking !!!!!!!.:D:thu:;):wave:

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Originally posted by THBv2.0



Well {censored}, who wants to go see "The Knobs?"


:rolleyes:

 

:D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Nevermind....that joke is way to obvious.

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Originally posted by THBv2.0



Well {censored}, who wants to go see "The Knobs?"


:rolleyes:

 

Off Topic Fun Fact:

 

Led Zeppelin had to change their name for a gig in Copenhagen because Eva von Zeppelin, descendent of Ferdinand von Zeppelin (inventor of the big ol' hot-air havin' airships) saw the cover of the first LZ album (the one with the Zeppelin going down in flames) freaked out, and threatened legal action.

 

Q: What did they change their name to?:confused:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A: The Nobs.:D

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I had an ego problem several years ago. I thought my songs mattered, and I was protective of them as if they had some value to them. Problem is, I was real apprehensive about sharing them with other people, as if they'd "rip off" my riffs or chord progressions and do something successful with them. In addition to that, I had all the usual 'jackass hotshot lead guitarist' attitude that we all know and love.

 

Nowadays, I have a different ego problem. I'm afraid of playing for people because I have no faith in myself nor my own abilities. I try to tell myself that It's not anything like I imagine it being, but I still seem to 'cower' in the corner when people come around.

 

sick, huh?

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Now for a serious answer:

 

I'm blessed. There are no ego problems in my band. My partner, Pebblestar, is by far the best songwriting partner I've ever had. Not only is she very talented, she's extremely easy to get along with. We've been together for four years, hardly had a fight at all. I love her like a little sister. :)

 

The rest of the band guys are sidemen. Well, maybe except for Joe our bass player. He's really cool, and lately he's been coming over to help us write. Maybe we've gone from a duo with three sidemen to a trio.

 

Only time will tell.

 

Terry D.

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I could write a book on this subject.

 

:eek:

 

My previous band was so full of ego, I don't know why it took me so long to see it.

 

Where to begin....

 

Drummer was very good, top notch. One of the best drummers I ever played with. He knew it, too. And wasnt shy about making sure everyone else knew about it by way of comments (about other drummers) eye rolling (at other drummers) more eye rolling (at other drummers "inferior" drum sets) and just generally being an ass about it. It got to the point where I didnt want to be seen around the guy at gigs because he was so vocally bashing other drummers.

 

Singer was Ego incarnated. He always felt it was nessecary to rip his shirt off half way through each set for the 10 people in attendance at every gig (this was an all original rock band with no following to speak of).

 

Didnt seem to matter that 9 of those 10 people were guys who would take that moment to join the aforementiond drummer in eye rolling, although for different reasons. :D

 

There were numerous other local bands that didnt want anything to do with us,

and the singer always claimed it was because they were "intimidated by us".

 

 

:rolleyes:

 

Yea, I am sure that's it.

 

A little ego in the way of confidence is not always a bad thing. It's when it spins out of control that it becomes a problem.

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Originally posted by Blackwatch



"Hey, would you mind if we use you songs in our new band?"


"No man, I really wish you wouldn't"


" Well, were going to and you can't stop us"


 

My guitarist/singer copyrighted the songs he contributed to the last band he was in. After that band broke up, the drummer recruited a new guitarist/singer to continue on. so the new singer approached the old singer and informed him that they'd be using his songs and continuing without him, and the old singer said, "No you're not, I've got the copyrights" so that put the kibosh on that. :D

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Actually it doesn't. All my songs are copyrighted too but all that means is they have to pay you for the songs they use, I think it's a couple of cents per song per albulm. And you still have to collect.

I'm not too worried, their band hasn't done much and If they do release a cd with my songs on it I'm getting a lawer.

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Originally posted by Blackwatch

Actually it doesn't. All my songs are copyrighted too but all that means is they have to pay you for the songs they use, I think it's a couple of cents per song per albulm. And you still have to collect.

I'm not too worried, their band hasn't done much and If they do release a cd with my songs on it I'm getting a lawer.

 

 

Well, you also have "right of first publication." Mechanicals only apply if the work has been previously published.

 

Terry D.

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Originally posted by SpacedCowboy



Off Topic Fun Fact:


Led Zeppelin had to change their name for a gig in Copenhagen because Eva von Zeppelin, descendent of Ferdinand von Zeppelin (inventor of the big ol' hot-air havin' airships) saw the cover of the first LZ album (the one with the Zeppelin going down in flames) freaked out, and threatened legal action.


Q: What did they change their name to?
:confused:
A: The Nobs.
:D

 

 

Zeps used hydrogen, not hot air, thus their explosive tendancies.

 

Although, I guess it's not that hard to imagine a singer confusing hot-air with explosiveness.

 

:wave:

 

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Stopped playing with guys I'd been jamming with after eight years.

 

It was obvious that "practice" was only a chance for the guys to get out of the house. The two guitarists never practiced at home, so we'd have to wait 10 minutes for the self-appointed leader to figure out the part, 15 more so he could teach it to the other guy.

 

Then he'd look at me (on bass) and say, "This is what you play." (Course, I already had a part worked out 'cause I'd been hearing the thing for a half-hour already. Sheesh!)

 

Neither of these guitarists would tune, either, so live shows were a disaster.

 

Then they'd argue about whose fault it was.

 

Ego is the only possible explanation, right?

 

After our last gig, they locked the keys in the car while it was running; it took 90 minutes with a coat-hanger to get them out of our sight.

 

Jonny

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Originally posted by squealie




Zeps used hydrogen, not hot air, thus their explosive tendancies.


Although, I guess it's not that hard to imagine a singer confusing hot-air with explosiveness.


:wave:

 

I thought you were gone, already...don't you have an equally

numb-nutted bass player in which to uselessly argue football ethics with on another message board, {censored}stick?:mad:

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