Members Ryst Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 After reading this thread:http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1192564 I wanted to bring up something I had not yet read from anyone yet. CD sales are apparently down and music DVD's are up. Unfortunately I don't have the numbers in front of me but I have heard this a few times. So if this is true, why aren't more bands making DVD's??? If you want to be one step ahead of the game why not have a DVD release party? Sell live dvd's and include the cd with it. Just curious. Here in ATL no one I know is doing this. I am having our next show taped and then I will be selling dvd's. I think with things like IMovie and IDVD, it's possible for the indie musician to get involved in this more but I just don't see anyone doing it around here. What do you guys think?
Members fastplant Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 We started making one before we went on hiatus. A few other bands around us have one. http://www.sideshowband.com/sideshow.wmv
Members Beachbum Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 I think that video & audio on DVD (or on some other medium) will be replacing the plain CD very soon. Who knows for sure though. Anyhow, one of the things we're doing around here is making video/audio clips of bands performing a song, and then selling them the video/audio clip so they can e-mail it to their friends and others. Once they see it / hear it they usually buy it. I think you're onto something, possibly something big.
Members Outrider Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 I hear ya. I've been thinking about this myself. We've burned DVD's of our shows for our own use, but they aren't good enough quality to distribute, free or otherwise. There's a Venue/studio here in birmingham that professionally films their performances (www.workplay.com) I'd like to play there, and if I do, I'm going to look into that option...getting DVD's cut of the show for promotional use, if nothing else. Also, so the kids can have a good laugh at my expense when I'm old. It's getting easier and easier to make DVDs yourself. I thnk it's gonna be a big deal soon. I watch/listen to concerts all the time now, even just in the background.
Members fastplant Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 Originally posted by Outrider I hear ya. I've been thinking about this myself. We've burned DVD's of our shows for our own use, but they aren't good enough quality to distribute, free or otherwise. There's a Venue/studio here in birmingham that professionally films their performances ( www.workplay.com) I'd like to play there, and if I do, I'm going to look into that option...getting DVD's cut of the show for promotional use, if nothing else. Also, so the kids can have a good laugh at my expense when I'm old. Yeah, there's only one club around here with multiple cameras and a feed off the board. I want to get in there again soon. We have some pretty cool shows on video from there.
Members zookie Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 We were taped at one club and featured on an hour-long cable program. The person who did the taping (also the club owner) gave us the rights to the recording and we've been selling the DVD at performances for some spare change. It is working out nicely.
Members Beachbum Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 Originally posted by zookie We were taped at one club and featured on an hour-long cable program. The person who did the taping (also the club owner) gave us the rights to the recording and we've been selling the DVD at performances for some spare change. It is working out nicely. Excellent idea. This is the type of thing all performers might want to sell in order to get profits back up. {censored} CD's... video AND audio might be the new rage.
Members Ryst Posted March 22, 2006 Author Members Posted March 22, 2006 Originally posted by Beachbum Excellent idea. This is the type of thing all performers might want to sell in order to get profits back up. {censored} CD's... video AND audio might be the new rage. That's what I am saying. Why not? If music DVD sales are really up, it's time for the indie musician to be one step ahead of the indie game. But it goes much further than this. My project has interest from a few labels. They want to see a video of a live show. So I was thinking....why not also send it to clubs, booking agents, lawyers, and eveyone else in the industry? If you want to get a show at a particular club, send them a dvd. Want to play with other bands from other places that have no idea what you look like or sound like? Send a dvd! Press packet?.....SEND A DVD! And for the indie studios....Start providing the service to edit the video and make the dvd content (menus, pics, and all that jazz). I am already one step ahead because this is what i am working on providng for my "fans" and my "clients". I really think this could be the next step for the indie musician.
Members renier Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 we played a band contest last week, and there was a guy offering to make a dvd of our show for 40 euros (about $50). we accepted immidiately, and 2(!) days after the gig, we received the DVD thru mail. excellent. great sound (well, no DI, but a good mike in the room) and nice visuals. apart from it being really cool to have one of your shows on dvd, its very educational. you can evaluate not only the playing, but also the stageperformance. very nice! we won the contest by the way, and first price is opening an outdoor festival with some pretty big names. for dutch/belgian people: Osdorp Posse, Janez Detd, Liftif, Green Lizard, Pater Moeskroen YEEHAAH!
Members zookie Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 Originally posted by Ryst If you want to get a show at a particular club, send them a dvd. Want to play with other bands from other places that have no idea what you look like or sound like? Send a dvd! Press packet?.....SEND A DVD! We're also offering the DVD as an option to our press kit. A number of places have said they prefer the DVD to a demo CD. I don't know that I'd call it a rage yet, or that the DVD-as-demo has proven advantageous, but it is interesting and it is another trick to pull from your bag.
Members Spynal Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 We've been toying with the idea for awhile, and we've toyed with some video ideas. I'll have to look into this more. Progressive thinking!
Members Ryst Posted March 22, 2006 Author Members Posted March 22, 2006 Originally posted by zookie We're also offering the DVD as an option to our press kit. A number of places have said they prefer the DVD to a demo CD. I don't know that I'd call it a rage yet, or that the DVD-as-demo has proven advantageous, but it is interesting and it is another trick to pull from your bag. It might not be the rage yet....But more and more people are watching movies and buying big screen tvs and putting tvs in their cars and playing video games. Video content is everywhere. It's just missing from the indie music scene. But I don't think it will be for long. Once someone (like me ) can make it a success, it will catch on. In fact, DVD's could put music ....good indie music, back into the listeners ears. We had a discussion not too long ago about the decline of live music attendance and someone said, 'why go out to shows when you can watch them on dvd" .......hmmmmm...Maybe indie musicians have an advantage here? Maybe someone watches a live dvd from a local band. They could possibly be more interested in going out to see them live because the tix will be much cheaper than seeing the Stones live. Just a thought.
Members Beachbum Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 Originally posted by Ryst It might not be the rage yet....But more and more people are watching movies and buying big screen tvs and putting tvs in their cars and playing video games. Video content is everywhere. It's just missing from the indie music scene. But I don't think it will be for long. Once someone (like me ) can make it a success, it will catch on. In fact, DVD's could put music ....good indie music, back into the listeners ears. We had a discussion not too long ago about the decline of live music attendance and someone said, 'why go out to shows when you can watch them on dvd" .......hmmmmm...Maybe indie musicians have an advantage here? Maybe someone watches a live dvd from a local band. They could possibly be more interested in going out to see them live because the tix will be much cheaper than seeing the Stones live. Just a thought. Seriously good thinking.
Members fastplant Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 Originally posted by Ryst We had a discussion not too long ago about the decline of live music attendance and someone said, 'why go out to shows when you can watch them on dvd" I don't think that's the reason though. I think astronomical ticket price hikes are to blame for the decline.
Members Spynal Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 The other tricky part is finding a good show to record DESPITE the low attendance due to the priorly discussed factors. I mean, do you really want to sell a DVD of yourself playing to a near-empty house? Certainly we wouldn't want fabricated crowd noise, as it (for me) would ruin the honesty of it all.
Members fastplant Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 Originally posted by Spynal The other tricky part is finding a good show to record DESPITE the low attendance due to the priorly discussed factors. I mean, do you really want to sell a DVD of yourself playing to a near-empty house? Certainly we wouldn't want fabricated crowd noise, as it (for me) would ruin the honesty of it all. Which is why, as you can see on my link above, we edited together a bunch of shows.
Members zookie Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 Originally posted by Spynal I mean, do you really want to sell a DVD of yourself playing to a near-empty house? We just pretended the stage was WAY in front of the crowd. That's why you can't hear the rousing applause.
Members Spynal Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 Which is why, as you can see on my link above, we edited together a bunch of shows Didn't check the link, my apologies. :thu We just pretended the stage was WAY in front of the crowd. That's why you can't hear the rousing applause. One way to go about it I suppose. I just have a hard time watching a DVD if I can't see and hear a crowd, I guess.
Members zookie Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 Originally posted by Spynal One way to go about it I suppose. I just have a hard time watching a DVD if I can't see and hear a crowd, I guess. For a dance band, or any band that interacted heavily with a large crowd, I agree with you. We're a folk duo. There are no gals sitting on someone's shoulders flashing their...huge tracks of land. This was filmed on a Sunday afternoon for a dinner crowd. The guys who did the editting spliced all the songs together and took out most of the in-between on-stage banter and other ambient sounds.
Members Marlin in Minn Posted March 22, 2006 Members Posted March 22, 2006 Originally posted by fastplant I don't think that's the reason though. I think astronomical ticket price hikes are to blame for the decline. That's exactly the reason we don't go very often. You can buy a nice home theater system for the price of attending 3 or 4 shows. Just pop a concert DVD into the player and crank it up. You've got the best seat in the house everytime, no parking fees, and no traffic jam to deal with when the shows over. I like hearing the big acts live, but most of them are way over what I'm willing to spend these days.
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