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My favorite comes from my current guitar player who's band at the time learned Steely Dan's Kid Charlemagne note for note. Nada... Nothing.

 

I've done the same thing with Extreme's Get the Funk Out (complete with a live horn section just for that song) and a couple of different rush tunes over the years. Although to be honest most of these examples boils down to the wrong song for the wrong crowd.

 

I did manage to make Old Time Rock and Roll fail though! The band was huge into Tower of Power, particularly the drummer and myself as a rythym section. We're playing OTR&R, a song that always works, at the end of a set and had it so funked up ala TOP, that nobody danced to it. The floor was deserted. So just for kicks we played the same song as straight and uninspiringly as the original at the start of the next set. The floor was packed. I never played it that way again.

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As far as "The Stroke" goes, same thing. To my ears it's got all the same appealing characteristics of "Pour Some Sugar On Me"---similar tempo and groove, big huge drum beat, lots of suggestive lyrics to sing a long to, big fat guitar riffs.

 

I'll tell you why. Billy Squier's image as presented in those 80's videos was just plain creepy.

 

Seriously.

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California Love-Tupac (complete with Roger Troutman talkbox) all groove no dance.

 

Really?:confused: I figured that would go over really well. I was actually considering having my band work up "Hypnotize" by Notorious BIG. 90s gangsta rap seems to be making a comeback...probably because today's rap sucks.

 

Anyway...

 

A few bombs I've been a part of in the past were:

AC/DC - Whole Lotta Rosie (the crowd had no clue WTH we were playing)

Nickelback - Animals (could've been that we just played it {censored}ty, but we heard crickets and dropped it after 2 gigs)

The Dan Band - Total ({censored}in') Eclipse of the Heart (if you've ever seen Old School, you know what I'm talking about. We thought this would be hilarious. Apparently not enough people have seen Old School).

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I can't even remember his videos. I don't think the success of ANY song today has to do with whatever a video-that-nobody-has-seen-for-25-years looked like.



Well... not entirely untrue.

Two years passed before Squier's next album Signs of Life. It was his third consecutive Platinum album. The album's first single release, "Rock Me Tonite" was Squier's biggest Pop hit. It reached #15 on Billboard's Hot 100, as well as #1 on the Album Rock Tracks chart in late 1984. However, the video for the track (directed by Kenny Ortega - Xanadu, High School Musical) which shows Squier dancing around a bedroom in a pink tank top, frequently appears on "worst music video ever" lists.[citation needed] On the VH1 show Ultimate Albums (Def Leppard's "Pyromania" episode),
Squier revealed that his career as a chart-topping rocker came to a rapid and sudden end with the release of the "Rock Me Tonite" video, derided by his fans who saw him as a sellout.

Billy Squier's career took a major downturn afterward and he began playing smaller venues.



It doesn't help that VH1 replays that "Worst Videos Ever" show 8-10 times a year. :facepalm::D

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On the VH1 show Ultimate Albums (Def Leppard's "Pyromania" episode), Squier revealed that his career as a chart-topping rocker came to a rapid and sudden end with the release of the "Rock Me Tonite" video, derided by his fans who saw him as a sellout.


 

 

Yeah, but my point is I don't see how that has any/much relevance to people dancing to songs TODAY. Especially those too young to remember that MTV actually used to play videos at one point in time. I guess it could have some bearing on why some songs travel through to the next generation better than others, but I really can't imagine it would be very big. There is no doubt all sorts of cultural and musical reasons why some 20-30 year old songs work and others don't. I just don't think the old videos are a big part of it. "Sugar", "Jenny" & "Jessie's Girl" don't work because the videos were so good. Or because of the stature the original artists still possess today.

 

The girls don't jump out of the floor to those songs because they love Def Leppard or Rick Springfield. Similar, I don't think they stay off the floor to "The Stroke" out of some dislike for Billy Squier. Most wouldn't even know he did that song, most likely. And besides, "Everyone Wants You" is a song that works well for a lot of bands. So it can't just be about the artist or the video of some other song.

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As far as "The Stroke" goes, same thing. To my ears it's got all the same appealing characteristics of "Pour Some Sugar On Me"

 

 

It could just be that that most people think (albeit mistakenly) that "The Stroke" is about rubbing one out into a dirty sock, and that just ain't what horny drunks at a bar want to sing about. "Pour Some Sugar on Me", on the other hand is EXACTLY what horny drunks want to sing about. :poke:

 

Just a thought.

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Yeah, but my point is I don't see how that has any/much relevance to people dancing to songs TODAY. Especially those too young to remember that MTV actually used to play videos at one point in time. I guess it could have
some
bearing on why some songs travel through to the next generation better than others, but I really can't imagine it would be very big. There is no doubt all sorts of cultural and musical reasons why some 20-30 year old songs work and others don't. I just don't think the old videos are a big part of it. "Sugar", "Jenny" & "Jessie's Girl" don't work because the videos were so good. Or because of the stature the original artists still possess today.


The girls don't jump out of the floor to those songs because they love Def Leppard or Rick Springfield. Similar, I don't think they stay off the floor to "The Stroke" out of some dislike for Billy Squier. Most wouldn't even know he did that song, most likely. And besides, "Everyone Wants You" is a song that works well for a lot of bands. So it can't just be about the artist or the video of some other song.

 

I agree with you... and your probably right... but I wouldn't discount it completely. This is the generation of the 'meme'... it's completely wired. Information is available with a mouse 'click'. Mention Rick James to someone under 25 and the first thought that enters their mind is "I'm Rick James b*tch!". Nobody would know who Gary Glitter is, though some might remember he went to jail for child porn. In today's world, most one hit wonders and marginal artists reputations are not remembered for their music but instead superceded by some You Tube clip or some arrest photo. I wouldn't say whether or not Billy Squier's legacy of having the 'worst video of all time' has any impact on hearing his music in a bar... (I'd say The Stroke would probably appeal to someone who graduated before 1982 is the big impact)... but the first thing I think of when you mention Billy Squier is him prancing around in that pink tank top. I can't get that image out of my head in fact. :D

 

billy-squier-squirm.jpg

 

It's almost like that Tom Cruise couch moment. When something like that happens people get a completely differen't view of the artist... and their vision of everything before it changes.

 

Again here is one person's review and he's 32

Rock me Tonight

 

3. Billy Squier,
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I just had a flood of failures hit my brain....

Womanizer-Brittany Spears... played it as a joke... no one laughed

A Little Respect-Erasure... hope people would remember and sing along... 2 people did

Keep On Loving You- We had an idea one year to tag cheezy power ballards on the end of each medley. We started with this song.. and we stopped with this song. Nothing like amping the energy in the room to '10' and then breaking out REO.... pssssssssssssssss you could hear the air leaving the room.

Let's Get Crazy-Prince. I thought we nailed this one... and Purple Rain was a big one in our early days. This song just never caught on. People didn't dance to it... some mouthed the words. Maybe we weren't very 'Prince' like. ;)

'Epic'- We played Epic for a long time. We had it in a medley in between Enter Sandman and "You Give Love A Bad Name". I love FNM so I was blinded. Still our singer was complaining the the energy dropped when we came to this tune. It took me a videotape with the crowd reaction to agree. We pulled it.


"Hot For Teacher"- This was probably our most epic fail because it was a personal choice for all of us. We were tired of playing cheeseball dance tunes, hip hop and throwaway pop tunes, so we decided to add one measily guilty pleasure tune to the setlist. I will say this certainly challenged our endurance levels and we did a respectable job pulling it off. We rehearsed it for about two weeks. Backburnered it and then whipped it out at a show. The reaction was like a sewer pipe broke. People were bemused and confused. One girl... a teacher and 25 yrs old said... "What are you playing... a song about a teacher, I don't get it". :facepalm:

Two shows.... just two shows and it was tugged. :rolleyes:

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I have a tune that I really want to work up just because it'd be so fun to play, but I'm really afraid it will be joining this list: "Been Caught Stealing" by Jane's Addiction. IDK, I think it might go right over the heads of our college crowds, but for the 25-40 year olds, it might be really cool. :idk:

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but the first thing I think of when you mention Billy Squier is him prancing around in that pink tank top. I can't get that image out of my head in fact.
:D



I don't disagree it ruined his career. I just don't know how many of the younger audiences who love so many other 80s songs have ever seen that video.

And again, if it was all about Squier's reputation, than "Everybody Wants You" would be as big a fail. Which it isn't, by a long shot.

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I have a tune that I really want to work up just because it'd be so fun to play, but I'm really afraid it will be joining this list: "Been Caught Stealing" by Jane's Addiction. IDK, I think it might go right over the heads of our college crowds, but for the 25-40 year olds, it might be really cool.
:idk:



Hmmm... my guess is that college kids would probably know it, but I think it would still be a reach... it's a decent enough song on the radio, but doesn't really have much to hook a live audience imo.

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I have a tune that I really want to work up just because it'd be so fun to play, but I'm really afraid it will be joining this list: "Been Caught Stealing" by Jane's Addiction. IDK, I think it might go right over the heads of our college crowds, but for the 25-40 year olds, it might be really cool.
:idk:



We did Been Caught Stealing for few months but the reaction was never more than just OK.

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I have a tune that I really want to work up just because it'd be so fun to play, but I'm really afraid it will be joining this list: "Been Caught Stealing" by Jane's Addiction. IDK, I think it might go right over the heads of our college crowds, but for the 25-40 year olds, it might be really cool.
:idk:

a little too wacky, probably. Love the song personally! Jane Says does really good usually.

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I don't disagree it ruined his career. I just don't know how many of the younger audiences who love so many other 80s songs have ever seen that video.


And again, if it was all about Squier's reputation, than "Everybody Wants You" would be as big a fail. Which it isn't, by a long shot.

"Everybody" is just a great rock song.

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