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I mean, who's regularly doing a friday-saturday night gig at the same place. It looks like we're going to have some opportunities to do this in the near future. I was wondering what other people's experiences have been with this type of arrangement...

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Always been my favorite gigs to do. You only have to load in/out once (I love being able to either hang out or just leave on Friday without having to worry about loading out, and love not having to get to the gig until a few minutes before start time on Saturday) and if you don't kill 'em on Friday you have a change to make up for things the next night.

 

Load in/out has always been the "work" part of any gig for me.

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I mean, who's regularly doing a friday-saturday night gig at the same place. It looks like we're going to have some opportunities to do this in the near future. I was wondering what other people's experiences have been with this type of arrangement...

 

 

Unheard of around here although we've done some in the past. In Boston a few Fanueil Hall Clubs would book a weekend. We've played a club on Block Island a few summers. We used to have a local casino gig that was a Friday/Saturday until we decided we just wanted Saturday nights (Fridays were horrible). The nice things about these gigs is setting up, soundchecking and then leaving your gear at the end of the night. You always think that it will save you some tim the next night before soundcheck again but inevitably you end up showing early and go through your routines as if you had set up again. One room in Boston was a pain in the ass... they made us tear down and setback up again the next night. At least we could store our gear there. Still the only thing we avoided was load out/load in a 2nd time.

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Up until recently, that's all we were doing! :lol: Thankfully, we will be doing our first four-nighter as a band at a different club in town. We have all played there for years in previous bands, just not with this particular configuration and I have NEVER played there as the primary frontman, so it should be interesting.

 

Anyway, back to the two-nighter regular gig: the advantages can be plenty. Load in one night, load out the next. Very nice on a Friday night to just go home and come back to your stuff already set up the next day.

 

If you screw up a song one night, you have a second chance to do it right the following night. Conversely, if you try a song out and find that it absolutely fills the dance floor, you can do the same thing the following night.

 

Obviously, one of the best parts is getting paid for two gigs in a row and not have to worry about driving to two different places on a weekend. :thu:

 

I think the best part about it is when people check you out the first night, then come back the next night. Even though there are plenty of places to play in town, some people only like to go to certain bars. So if you can get them to come back two nights in a row, to me, that is a real accomplishment.

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There was a time that was 95% of the weekend warrior business. I loved playing that format for the reasons others have mentioned - one setup/one teardown, it's nice to simply stroll in a half hour before showtime on Saturday night ... showered, rested and ready to rock! ... and back in the day ... a two day bar gig didn't pay all that much less than two bar one-nighters - and the slight reduction you did see was worth it when you consider the wear and tear on bodies and gear that the extra setup/teardown meant. As other have pointed - consistently playing two nights back to back went a long way in helping a band get tight! I'd be all over taking two nighters if the oportunity were presented!

 

The only downside of two nighters - is that it can be tough on vocalists. It exposes vocal weakness pretty quick - whether it's because a vocalist sings from his throat, or fighting a cold, or whatever. I've seen that format wreak havoc on vocalists who don't know how to pace themselves. A guy who gets overly excited and blows his pipes out on Friday night can be looking at a long scary Saturday if he's not careful! That's where having a whole band full of competent vocalists goes a long, long, long way.

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My first gigs in High School were as the house band for a 21+ bar three nights a week. It's a great way to get very tight quickly. AFter about 6 months, you usually can't stand the place any more.

 

My current band plays occasional 2 nighters. As the keyboard player and supplier of the PA, I love these gigs. Agreed on the stress for the singer. Singers sometimes don't really realize when they're stressing their voice on a piece. This will bring out the problems pretty quickly.

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Only one of the clubs we play has this format. Its a long ride for me to get out there, so leaving the gear set up makes it easier. All the pro's discussed above. Not many cons. I grab them mikes, lay up the monitors, covers on my amp and mixer, grab the guitar and effects and I'm gone.

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Sadly two-nighters have gone away in my neck of the woods. Two years ago it was the standard, but now it seems like we've got to bounce all over town if we're playing two nights in a row because one night (Friday or Saturday) is going to be karaoke. Sign of the times I suppose

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I'd say 30% of bars hire this way around here...but they base it on a band's following...and they're usually the lower end places from our experience.

 

Although you can make more $ for less work (only one setup and tear down) we still typically would rather only play 1 gig per weekend. The kicker is that we usually aren't bringing or setting up a whole PA. Most of the places I book have built in sound.

 

Generally we setup the stage in 45 mins and we're out of there in a half hour afterwards.

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Thanks for the responses. Sounds about as I had expected. A little background here.

 

In and around Baton Rouge, I don't see us doing multi-night gigs. However, we're working with an agent now who is able to get us out of town gigs (2-4 hour drive) at a considerably higher pay than we get in town. For those gigs, we're looking at booking Fri-Sat. It just makes sense if we're going to drive that far. Also, we're seeing that these club owners are also throwing in rooms for a couple of nights, so it works out being pretty good $$$. And so far, these out of town gigs have been a blast, so its kind of a winner all around...

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As others have said, they are not as common as in the past. We play a club that books us for Friday and Saturday on a regular 6 - 7 week rotation. It's about an hour drive for us--not too bad. It's fun to play there, and we also like not having to tear down on Friday or set up on Saturday. There are a couple more bars that want to book us for Friday/Saturday. We turned down one because it's a long drive, we have to bring production, and they don't supply rooms. The other one is a 3-hour drive, but they supply production, rooms, AND pay better.

 

The only downside to two-night gigs is the drummer and I do most of the singing and our voices can get pretty worn down by the last set on Saturday.

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The only downside to two-night gigs is the drummer and I do most of the singing and our voices can get pretty worn down by the last set on Saturday.

 

 

Meagan and I handle all the singing as well. For us the key is whether the room is a smoking room or not. We can easily play 3 straight nights in non-smoking venues. This past weekend we played Fri and Sat in EXTREMELY smokey venues, and by the end of the second night, our voices were pretty shot.

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Our area is a 2 night area for the most part. In these situations you have to rely on the bar to bring the crowd for the most part. Most of the time it works fine though, usually one night (mostly Friday around here) seems a little slower than the other night.

 

One load in/out is sweet and being able to just leave ASAP on Friday or go to a party, whatever, is pretty damn nice. Also the second night is usually better performance wise in my experience, the band is warmed up and memories refreshed from the night before.

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Back in the "day" it was all 5-6 nighter gigs usually booked in 2-week stints. We'd usually try and work 48-50 weeks a year. I guess singers aren't as tough as they used to be?
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In fairness, it would be a lot easier if all I did was sing. But I talk non-stop in my day job which takes its toll...

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Unheard of around here

 

 

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I did it one time, but that was only because they had a booking glitch on the 2nd night and needed someone to fill the slot. Since it was an outdoor gig, I did not get the benefit of leaving my stuff set up!

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