Members crashingdomino Posted September 6, 2004 Members Posted September 6, 2004 im having a hard time trying to pick one... I am trying to get something for around 200 but i also have a concern about durability. I dont want to end up buying a pedal that will crap out on me after 6 months because the switches went faulty. thanks for any help
Members gargamelesp Posted September 6, 2004 Members Posted September 6, 2004 basically for a budget of around 200 there are 2 popular options. The behringer fcb1010 and the g minor For maybe around $400 you can get the ground control or the midi mate. These are new prices, so if you go used maybe you can get a better deal
Members scarecrowfields Posted September 6, 2004 Members Posted September 6, 2004 Id go with a rocktron midi mate. It stores names of patches and can run using phantom power so you wont need a seperate power cord to run. I have had mine for 2 years and havent had any problems. I got mine for about $200. I have recently got the all access which has a few more options but costs alot more. For the money the fcb 1010 is hard to beat. My brother has used his for a year and a half and it is worked perfectly. It is nice because it has the expression pedals built in and isnt overly complicated to program. I like not having to use a seperate power supply to my pedal but i guess im just lazy.
Members Brian Chan Posted September 6, 2004 Members Posted September 6, 2004 Hi scarecrowfields Which rack unit supply thr phatom power to your Midi Mate?
Members SkyhighRocks Posted September 6, 2004 Members Posted September 6, 2004 I just found an FCB 1010 for $90 shipped so you can definitely find deals out there!
Members El Grinder Posted September 6, 2004 Members Posted September 6, 2004 I too, would say try to find a deal on a MIDI Mate by Rocktron.
Members Flat Fifth Fury Posted September 6, 2004 Members Posted September 6, 2004 I would say scrap the Behringer and get a used Ground Control. They can be had for around $125US and are far better than the Behringer. And don't say that the Behringer already has expression pedals built in; they are terrible. Our bassist has one of those cheap plastic toys and it's just about a joke. My Ground Control is a far superior midi control pedal and I paid the same as he did.
Members El Grinder Posted September 6, 2004 Members Posted September 6, 2004 Originally posted by Flat Fifth Fury I would say scrap the Behringer and get a used Ground Control. They can be had for around $125US and are far better than the Behringer. And don't say that the Behringer already has expression pedals built in; they are terrible. Our bassist has one of those cheap plastic toys and it's just about a joke. My Ground Control is a far superior midi control pedal and I paid the same as he did. ^ The guitarists that I know who have the Behringer say the same thing about the expression pedal. The sweep on it is very weak according to them.
Members crashingdomino Posted September 6, 2004 Author Members Posted September 6, 2004 i think im gonna go with the midi mate....i was a little worried about its switches being cheap though. plus, it will probably be really compadible with my replifex. thanks to everyone
Members El Grinder Posted September 6, 2004 Members Posted September 6, 2004 Well, here's a pretty decent Buy-it-now price on a new MIDI Mate on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3745552054&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
Members scarecrowfields Posted September 6, 2004 Members Posted September 6, 2004 Hi Brian, I use a triaxis and a randall rm4 which both supply phantom power to the midi mate. The midi mate has been very durable for me so far and i havent had any problems.
Members SkyhighRocks Posted September 6, 2004 Members Posted September 6, 2004 Only thing that would bother me with the midi mate is how small the buttons are. I have big feet and that has caused a problem for me in the past with floorboards.
Members Brian Chan Posted September 6, 2004 Members Posted September 6, 2004 Originally posted by scarecrowfields Hi Brian, I use a triaxis and a randall rm4 which both supply phantom power to the midi mate. The midi mate has been very durable for me so far and i havent had any problems. Thanks for your info In fact, i have a Rolls RP93 midi switcher and it supply the phatom power as well. (12v-5 pin midi cable) However, some people told me that 12v is just too high for the midi pedal. Because most of the midi controoler only require 9v. I am just onderign which midi controller should get. Ihate to use adpater with my controller on stage.
Members Brian Chan Posted September 6, 2004 Members Posted September 6, 2004 Originally posted by Flat Fifth Fury I would say scrap the Behringer and get a used Ground Control. They can be had for around $125US and are far better than the Behringer. And don't say that the Behringer already has expression pedals built in; they are terrible. Our bassist has one of those cheap plastic toys and it's just about a joke. My Ground Control is a far superior midi control pedal and I paid the same as he did. Hi Flat Fifth Fury I am interest to get a DMC Ground Control. How do you power up your controller?
Members ubersam Posted September 7, 2004 Members Posted September 7, 2004 I'm about to get the DMC GCP. It comes with it's own power supply. But if you have the Guitar Audio Switcher (GCX, also by DMC), the GCP can get it's power through the outer pins of the midi cable plugged into the GCX. The GCP will be replacing a FCB1010, whose inadequacy is becoming more apparent.
Members Flat Fifth Fury Posted September 7, 2004 Members Posted September 7, 2004 Originally posted by Brian Chan I am interest to get a DMC Ground Control. How do you power up your controller? My Ground Control is powered by my GCX loop switcher. It has a dedicated power feed through a standard 5 pin MIDI cable. If you don't have a dedicated feed you can easily splice power to your Ground Control by taping into the outer two pins on the cable. In a standard Midi cable only the inner 3 pins are active.
Members bjor Posted September 8, 2004 Members Posted September 8, 2004 Hey Brian You can use 12V in the midimate. Make sure the the unit that gives it power gives out 1A as well, or the midimate won't work.
Members Brian Chan Posted September 8, 2004 Members Posted September 8, 2004 Originally posted by bjor Hey Brian You can use 12V in the midimate. Make sure the the unit that gives it power gives out 1A as well, or the midimate won't work. Hi What do you mean by 1A?
Members EVH Wolfgang Posted September 8, 2004 Members Posted September 8, 2004 The Ground Control and Ground Control Pro both have a dedicated jack for a wall-supply, or you can do the Phantom-Power route. I own both and have tried the others and highly recommend the Ground Control 2.0 if you can find one used. Otherwise, you're budget will be a little low to find a good controller. If you manage to get that MidiMate for under $200, then go for that since it's currently available. That would be my second choice in the low-budget arena.
Members SteveVHT Posted September 8, 2004 Members Posted September 8, 2004 Get the Ground Control. The Behringer is crappy.
Members SkyhighRocks Posted September 8, 2004 Members Posted September 8, 2004 I've had the behringer before and had no problems with it. I'm getting another one today. It's just the right size for my feet. I hate smaller boards where my feet always touch 2 buttons instead of one...which really messes things up.
Members Brian Chan Posted September 8, 2004 Members Posted September 8, 2004 Originally posted by EVH Wolfgang The Ground Control and Ground Control Pro both have a dedicated jack for a wall-supply, or you can do the Phantom-Power route. Could you tell me how to do it? My Rolls switcher give 12v phantom power. So i just afraid it is too high for a 9v requirement pedal. So i may get the Rocktron Midi Mate rather than DMC GC on the phantom power issue.
Members EVH Wolfgang Posted September 8, 2004 Members Posted September 8, 2004 The easiest way is to get a midi-cable that has a splice so you can still use the provided wall-supply, but plug it in, in the back of the rack instead of on the floor. Then on the side that connects to the floorboard is wired with the extra pins. Here's what I have as well as others: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/331270/ This will work for any product that uses the standard "Phantom Power" so don't worry that it's made by Rocktron. It will work with all brands.
Members Brian Chan Posted September 8, 2004 Members Posted September 8, 2004 Originally posted by EVH Wolfgang The easiest way is to get a midi-cable that has a splice so you can still use the provided wall-supply, but plug it in, in the back of the rack instead of on the floor. Then on the side that connects to the floorboard is wired with the extra pins.Here's what I have as well as others:http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/331270/This will work for any product that uses the standard "Phantom Power" so don't worry that it's made by Rocktron. It will work with all brands. Thank you so much But do you have any pic of your set up and also the cable? I have never seen that cable before.
Members crashingdomino Posted September 8, 2004 Author Members Posted September 8, 2004 can a ground control work in controller mode?
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