Members LPonayz Posted September 11, 2007 Members Posted September 11, 2007 I will be running these through the effects loop of a Mesa Boogie Single Recto head. Furman PQ3, BBE Sonic Maximizer and Rocktron Hush c. Can anyone advise me on the best order to put these in for the best sound. Thanks... LP
Members Zachman Posted September 11, 2007 Members Posted September 11, 2007 I will be running these through the effects loop of a Mesa Boogie Single Recto head. Furman PQ3, BBE Sonic Maximizer and Rocktron Hush c. Can anyone advise me on the best order to put these in for the best sound. Thanks... LP Hush first, Get rid of the BBE, then the PQ3
Members tats_dragon Posted September 11, 2007 Members Posted September 11, 2007 They still make sonic maximizers? Why not look for a speaker/cab combo that didn't require a parametric? Jun
Members LPonayz Posted September 11, 2007 Author Members Posted September 11, 2007 They still make sonic maximizers? Why not look for a speaker/cab combo that didn't require a parametric?Jun I may or may not use it.... I already had the PQ3 and got a killer deal on the Recto... Im just looking at my options...
Members LPonayz Posted September 11, 2007 Author Members Posted September 11, 2007 Hush first, Get rid of the BBE, then the PQ3 The BBE does a good job of tightening that loose bottom that Mesas are known for
Members Zachman Posted September 11, 2007 Members Posted September 11, 2007 The BBE does a good job of tightening that loose bottom that Mesas are known for Trust me, I know what they do, I've owned and used them and they definitely don't as good a job as the PQ3, at dialing in the Mesas.
Members LPonayz Posted September 11, 2007 Author Members Posted September 11, 2007 Trust me, I know what they do, I've owned and used them and they definitely don't as good a job as the PQ3, at dialing in the Mesas. I'll try it out without the BBE and see what happens...
Members Zachman Posted September 11, 2007 Members Posted September 11, 2007 I'll try it out without the BBE and see what happens... That is ALWAYS the best thing to do. See what works for YOU, the best.
Members LPonayz Posted September 11, 2007 Author Members Posted September 11, 2007 ... Thanks for the help guys When I get a chance this weekend I will be tinkering around with my set up and see what happens... Cheers, LP
Members tats_dragon Posted September 11, 2007 Members Posted September 11, 2007 When testng the BBE don't just put the unit on 'Bypass', take the unit completely out of the signal chain. Jun
Members Boltino Posted September 11, 2007 Members Posted September 11, 2007 When testng the BBE don't just put the unit on 'Bypass', take the unit completely out of the signal chain.Jun Excellent advice. Many a BBE has been sold not due to what the device does, but how crappy it makes everything sound when "bypassed."
Members succubus Posted September 11, 2007 Members Posted September 11, 2007 I use a BBE on a QSC amp that just plays MP3s.I always wondered why is sucked so bad in bypass. Now I know. It works good for MP3s by the way. The are already so compressed out that it seems to give some space.
Members El Grinder Posted September 12, 2007 Members Posted September 12, 2007 effects loop out -> Hush -> EQ -> effects return The BBE pretty much acts like a 2-band EQ (at 50hz and 5khz) anyhow...
Members tats_dragon Posted September 12, 2007 Members Posted September 12, 2007 I noticed Zachman and El Grinder both recommend the Hush before EQ. Why? Jun
Members succubus Posted September 12, 2007 Members Posted September 12, 2007 I noticed Zachman and El Grinder both recommend the Hush before EQ. Why?Jun Because it makes sense. Think about what a Hush does and what an EQ does.
Members tats_dragon Posted September 13, 2007 Members Posted September 13, 2007 Thanks succubus for the detailed explanation.I don't use either but doesn't the manufacturer recommend it as the last item in a signal chain? Seems like an eq can cause noise that might need Hush'ed?I really don't care either way, I was just curious. Jun
Members El Grinder Posted September 13, 2007 Members Posted September 13, 2007 Hush should not be the last item in the signal chain, especially if any digital time-based effects are used. For example, Hush would kill the tail of a reverb if it were post-effect instead of pre-effect. In this particular instance, the EQ could be anywhere in the signal chain, pre-gain, effects loop, before or after the Hush. The reason that I suggested it to be after the Hush in this case is because BBE processing was mentioned. If the use of the EQ is going to be just to enhance the overall finished sound (like the BBE is advertized to do), then last in the signal chain before hitting the power amp would be the best location for it.
Members Zachman Posted September 14, 2007 Members Posted September 14, 2007 I noticed Zachman and El Grinder both recommend the Hush before EQ. Why?Jun Because I find that the majority of noise comes from the high gain hiss in a rig, and not from the components in a rack for instance, of course POS equipment not withstanding, that way the hiss from the high gain preamp signal is "hushed", before it gets increased exponentially by one's pedals and/or rack gear, AND if you add a hush at the end of the chain, after a delay for example, it tends to cut off the delay trails in a not cool way
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