Members boomerweps Posted March 28, 2008 Members Share Posted March 28, 2008 AFAIK, Every amp you have listed is a boat anchor except the PLX. Get the PLX, your back will thank you. Consider bumping up to the PLX2402 for 450-500 watts per channel at 8 ohms (thd & freq. spec dependent) this would give you a little over program power for one speaker but if you get two and want to run them on one side of the amp and use the other side for subs or ?, it'll still give 350 watts per speaker. That's at 21#. At 44.5# the qsc RMX2450 will do a similar job, and a little less, the RMX1850 will do a great job, too. Boomerweps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikeote Posted March 28, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 28, 2008 Thanks for your post Boomerweps, it goes against what agedhorse and Craigv have told me, so i'll wait for them to reply to it. Cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted March 28, 2008 Members Share Posted March 28, 2008 The peak rating is just the "program" rating with a math conversion for peak value. Technically, it's the (RMS voltage x 1.414)**2/Zload. It's the 1.414 factor that is responsible for the conversion. 300 watts is ideal for that box. Also be sure to use the high pass filter at 50Hz on the QSC amp which is my favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikeote Posted March 28, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 28, 2008 Cheers, the QSC amp is your favorite, but the Crowns and Peavey are ok ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikeote Posted March 28, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 28, 2008 them. dbx, Peavey make good EQ's, any others you'de recommend ? Gotta be more than 3. Cheers ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted March 28, 2008 Members Share Posted March 28, 2008 Cheers, the QSC amp is your favorite, but the Crowns and Peavey are ok ?Thanks Yeah... ok I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikeote Posted March 29, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 29, 2008 Yamaha EQ's ok ? What do you pay for when buying an eq, do the good brand ones sound better ? Or is it more of a reliability thing, eq's can't go horribly wrong and blow up your system I assume? I see some of them have low boost / cut off, which I think i'll go for. Cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted March 29, 2008 Members Share Posted March 29, 2008 Reliability, filter response (there are a few terrible examples out there though most are pretty good these days), balanced inputs/outputs and noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikeote Posted March 31, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 Hi I got a great deal on a yamaha EMX620 powered mixer, which came with 2 crappy budget Peavey eurosys speakers + 2 eurosys monitors (all for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted March 31, 2008 CMS Author Share Posted March 31, 2008 How on earth did you get derailed like this? You had a pretty good plan, then you buy a powered mixer and some junk speakers. Sorry if it sounds harsh, but why waste our time like this? The amp is 135 watts @ 8 ohms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikeote Posted March 31, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 no no no, don't worry i'm not gonna use the crappy peavies, i'm gonna sell em, i'm simply gonna use that mixer for it's power amp, is that a good idea ? I'll use my better Phonic mixer as planned before, I assume the power amp inside the yamaha mixer will be as good quality as the ones normal ones they make. I'm still going to be using my ClubV only. If using a Yamaha powered mixer soly as a power amp is a bad idea I can still sell it with the crappy speakers, or seperate for a decent profit. Cheers ! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikeote Posted March 31, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 My question was if I can use both 100watt channels from the mixer to power my ClubV ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted March 31, 2008 CMS Author Share Posted March 31, 2008 no no no, don't worry i'm not gonna use the crappy peavies, i'm gonna sell em, i'm simply gonna use that mixer for it's power amp, is that a good idea ?I'll use my better Phonic mixer as planned before, I assume the power amp inside the yamaha mixer will be as good quality as the ones normal ones they make.I'm still going to be using my ClubV only.If using a Yamaha powered mixer soly as a power amp is a bad idea I can still sell it with the crappy speakers, or seperate for a decent profit.Cheers !Mike You need 300 watts, and have an amp that'll do 135 watts. It'll work but not as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikeote Posted March 31, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 Won't it do 200 watts if I combine the 2 outputs for 1 speaker ? Can I do that ? Cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted March 31, 2008 Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 Won't it do 200 watts if I combine the 2 outputs for 1 speaker ? Can I do that ?CheersMike No, it doesn't work that way, all you will do is end up with a smoldering mess. Dumb, dumb, dumb... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted March 31, 2008 CMS Author Share Posted March 31, 2008 Won't it do 200 watts if I combine the 2 outputs for 1 speaker ? Can I do that ?CheersMike No. It has one amplifier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikeote Posted March 31, 2008 Author Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 Ok thanks, not dumb, just inexperianced. I'll sell the mixer / peavies for a bit of profit, i've just won this:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170204485952&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007 You guys were just in time so I didn't miss it, so now I got an Ok power amp, I won this as well:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=370035515006&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=024 So have a decent eq. I think i'm all set ! (For now) Lets hope I don't blow it up =) Thanks so much for your help guys ! I'll v prolly be on here bugging the hell outta you guys again soon ! Let me know if I can help in any way. Or if you have a paypal account I can send $10 to as a thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted March 31, 2008 CMS Author Share Posted March 31, 2008 No, it doesn't work that way, all you will do is end up with a smoldering mess.Dumb, dumb, dumb... Actually, having only one amplifier, in there, all he ends up with is a 4ohm load on the amp.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted March 31, 2008 Members Share Posted March 31, 2008 Actually, having only one amplifier, in there, all he ends up with is a 4ohm load on the amp....I was actually referring to the "shotgun" WTF approach that usually ends up with a smoldering mess. Bridging or tieing two channels together just makes the process more efficient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikeote Posted April 1, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 1, 2008 "Actually, having only one amplifier, in there, all he ends up with is a 4ohm load on the amp...." I don't understand that (big surprise I know), in my bid to learn every thing about the gear as possible (within reason) so I don't kill it can you explain how having more than one amp increases the load to the amp ? I've just thought of some thing I should prolly know as well, i've heard of people blowing up (or err frying) mixers, how does one do that ? Is it just by pushing the gain on the channel too much so the mic pre amps die ? Cheers ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted April 1, 2008 CMS Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 "Actually, having only one amplifier, in there, all he ends up with is a 4ohm load on the amp...."I don't understand that (big surprise I know), in my bid to learn every thing about the gear as possible (within reason) so I don't kill it can you explain how having more than one amp increases the load to the amp ?I've just thought of some thing I should prolly know as well, i've heard of people blowing up (or err frying) mixers, how does one do that ? Is it just by pushing the gain on the channel too much so the mic pre amps die ? Cheers ! Well, if there were two amplifiers, as in most power amps, they could be bridged to create one channel with twice the power, but into double the single channels' individual impedance loads. But your Yammie's got one amp, so bridging isn't possible. I'm not aware of it being commonly possible to damage a mixer by any means other than physically hitting it. You could run all the channels full gain, full fader and max the outputs if you wanted and it won't damage the mixer. Of course, whatever you plug this into will not sound good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikeote Posted April 1, 2008 Author Members Share Posted April 1, 2008 I understand. Cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted April 1, 2008 Members Share Posted April 1, 2008 With a stereo power amplifier (in a stereo powered mixer), I have seen folks parallel (connect together) the two channels in their futile attempt to increase the output power. This has resulted in the smoldering pile of worthless junk where a previously functional mixer once stood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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