Members rrrredrvr Posted July 20, 2009 Members Share Posted July 20, 2009 Our 7 member band has begun mic'ing everything when we perform live now that we have a capable mixer/PA for this. I share lead and rhythm guitar parts with another guitarist, and I play through a Fender Deluxe Reverb RI. Any recommendations for the best mic choice for mic'ing this? We're just using cheap Nady vocal mic's at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted July 20, 2009 Members Share Posted July 20, 2009 I used three of these last Saturday: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CCN15M I've never had any complaints on the sound - quite the opposite actually . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members witesol Posted July 20, 2009 Members Share Posted July 20, 2009 I play a deluxe reissue. I've found nothing i like better than the Heil PR30, and sm57 always works, and in third place for me in the e609 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members philw44 Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 I'd actually get an Audix i5 over an SM57 simply because they are better built. I've done a few A/B Tests between them in the studio and the i5 just has a little bit more low-mid. Theres some sound clip here that compare the Sennheiser 906/Audix i5/Shure Sm57 http://www.gearslutz.com/board/1399519-post20.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mshifflett Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 I'd actually get an Audix i5 over an SM57 simply because they are better built. I've done a few A/B Tests between them in the studio and the i5 just has a little bit more low-mid. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KF650SB1000 Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 I tend to grab the e906 as my guitar mic. The SM57 is still a "standard" mic, for everything. Depending on the music and of course the stage, I might grab the AT4040 for the guitar also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scottc Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 I'd actually get an Audix i5 over an SM57 simply because they are better built. .....SM57 is as durable as they come. You may prefer another over the 57 for a particular sound or name, but not because their not built well!!!!!!!!!!!!The 57 is an all around all purpose mic, vocals,instruments,whatever!! Thanks for the sound clips,but to me they sounded the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 I'd actually get an Audix i5 over an SM57 simply because they are better built. I've done a few A/B Tests between them in the studio and the i5 just has a little bit more low-mid. Better built? You are kidding right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members witesol Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 at a point it's almost ridiculous to think any one mic mates with a type of amp better. if the player's tone is whacked out then as an engineer i'll be simply doing damage control to a get a decent tone over the PA and at that point almost any mic is fine. In my experience most guitar players tones are way to brittle, too bright. If one's ears were down on their shins, perhaps that would change. 57, i5, senny, heil, AT, beyer..all fine. my all-time fave mic is the Beyer M160 but I just don't bring them too often to most of the local'ish gigs. any mic i would have in my collection would be built well enough to continue using and bringing, so, how well it's made is of little consideration. it's grab something and get the show running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MainEventSound Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shaster Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 If you're running sound from stage it might be more important to know what your amp and miced amp sound like out front. I often "have" to run sound from stage. One day I set up my whole PA and guitar amp. Set up a 57, and spent an hour or so messing with my guitar tone, mic placement and channel strip (not too much) to come up with a template/starting place for my guitar - at a nice leisurely pace without bar managers and patrons freaking out. Seems to have worked for me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unalaska Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 mic placement will have as much effect on the tone as does the mic itself. Many mics are good for guitar, hell I've even used a cheap nady tom mic in a pinch. 57's, 609s, EV 408's, Shure beta 57's, SM7's, AT3035, 4030, KSM109, PL20, PV45, senn MD421... So many more, I do prefer the 57's and 609s because of cost, durability and I know they'll sound good on whatever. For a decent 57 knock off I like the SHS OM450 and there is an OSP which is pretty decent too. I can't really tell the difference and all have held up as well as the 57. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mshifflett Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 +1 Just to clarify, I was agreeing with the i5 for its tonal response. Both of them are equally as durable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members philw44 Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 I'm sorry i totally disagree agedhorse. The grille at the top of a 57 is flimsy and if the mic happens to fall drop to the floor head first it will break. This happened to me when a Drum clip for a rack tom came loose and fell. I have seen numerous engineers tape forks to the ends of there 57's to avoid this happening, so maybe I'm not the only one who thinks they have a flaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Special J Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 If you can find a Sennheiser MD409 (the predecessor to the e609/e906, I prefer them to the others. Otherwise, the other Sennheisers or a 57 work just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted July 21, 2009 CMS Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 I'm sorry i totally disagree agedhorse. The grille at the top of a 57 is flimsy and if the mic happens to fall drop to the floor head first it will break. This happened to me when a Drum clip for a rack tom came loose and fell. I have seen numerous engineers tape forks to the ends of there 57's to avoid this happening, so maybe I'm not the only one who thinks they have a flaw. If you did the same drop test with any other mic, something's going to either dent or crack, OR the cartridge will take the sudden acceleration and be damaged. This is sometimes observed later as a change in the mic's "tone". Nothing is indestructible, except perhaps a cockroach or a Twinkie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mshifflett Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 Nothing is indestructible, except perhaps a cockroach or a Twinkie. What is up with people deep frying twinkies? That just seems nasty to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted July 21, 2009 CMS Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 What is up with people deep frying twinkies? That just seems nasty to me! Would you prefer a deep-fried cockroach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mshifflett Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 Good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted July 21, 2009 CMS Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Good point! No....I was serious...would you like some? I've got a batch in the fryer right now. Gonna top 'em with some garlic cloves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mshifflett Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 Only with a side of night crawler pasta and a shot of goat's blood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted July 21, 2009 CMS Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 Only with a side of night crawler pasta and a shot of goat's blood Order up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted July 21, 2009 Members Share Posted July 21, 2009 I've heard of people boiling 57's to remove the transformer for better low end but maybe they'd sound even better deep fried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted July 21, 2009 CMS Author Share Posted July 21, 2009 I've heard of people boiling 57's to remove the transformer for better low end but maybe they'd sound even better deep fried? Deep fry for warmth, boil for clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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