Members keithglacier Posted February 26, 2021 Members Share Posted February 26, 2021 Does anyone have a wiring diagram for this setup? I can only find diagrams with a volume pot. The switch is an on/off switch with 6 lugs and I am not sure where to solder each connection. I just want to have the humbucker with the switch that turns it on and off, no pots. Thank you so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members badpenguin Posted February 26, 2021 Members Share Posted February 26, 2021 19 hours ago, keithglacier said: Does anyone have a wiring diagram for this setup? I can only find diagrams with a volume pot. The switch is an on/off switch with 6 lugs and I am not sure where to solder each connection. I just want to have the humbucker with the switch that turns it on and off, no pots. Thank you so much! Ok, so you only want a single on/off switch, with no pots. Simple: wire the pickup hot wire to one of the center lugs, the ground to the case of the switch. Then wire one of the unused lugs on the same side where the pickup goes to to the output jack, with the ground of the jack soldered to the side of the switch. See, told you it was simple. And welcome to the forum!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keithglacier Posted February 26, 2021 Author Members Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 hours ago, badpenguin said: Ok, so you only want a single on/off switch, with no pots. Simple: wire the pickup hot wire to one of the center lugs, the ground to the case of the switch. Then wire one of the unused lugs on the same side where the pickup goes to to the output jack, with the ground of the jack soldered to the side of the switch. See, told you it was simple. And welcome to the forum!!! Thanks so much! I understand where the hots should go. When you "ground to the case of the switch", do you mean on a certain lug on the switch? And the ground from the jack soldered to the side of the switch means a lug as well? If so, which lugs for each? Thanks, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members badpenguin Posted February 27, 2021 Members Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 hour ago, keithglacier said: Thanks so much! I understand where the hots should go. When you "ground to the case of the switch", do you mean on a certain lug on the switch? And the ground from the jack soldered to the side of the switch means a lug as well? If so, which lugs for each? Thanks, again. Nope! To the side of the switch, you know, the metal housing of the switch itself. OR you can wire the ground of the pickup directly to the ground of the output jack. And glad I could help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keithglacier Posted February 27, 2021 Author Members Share Posted February 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, badpenguin said: Nope! To the side of the switch, you know, the metal housing of the switch itself. OR you can wire the ground of the pickup directly to the ground of the output jack. And glad I could help. Thanks, again! My switch does not have any metal like that one on the sides to solder to - it is all plastic. And the ground from the jack goes to a lug on the switch or the bridge ground? Thank you so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted February 27, 2021 Moderators Share Posted February 27, 2021 Ground should not be on a lug of the switch....the ground of the p-up, the bridge ground and the ground on the jack are the same ground [or should be...] and should all be connected to only themselves You could solder on a spade or slip lug and attach it to the shaft of the switch against the pickguard...not crucial, just another way to do it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members badpenguin Posted February 27, 2021 Members Share Posted February 27, 2021 55 minutes ago, keithglacier said: Thanks, again! My switch does not have any metal like that one on the sides to solder to - it is all plastic. And the ground from the jack goes to a lug on the switch or the bridge ground? Thank you so much. What he said ^^. DO NOT solder the ground to any of the lugs. Ground should go to the bridge and straight to the output jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keithglacier Posted February 27, 2021 Author Members Share Posted February 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, badpenguin said: What he said ^^. DO NOT solder the ground to any of the lugs. Ground should go to the bridge and straight to the output jack. Thanks! I'm missing something here. When I do as instructed here i do not get any sound from either position unless I bridge the 2 pairs of unused lugs together. The top two bridged, middle two consists of one from the pickup hot and the other to the jack hot, bottom two lugs bridged - this creates sound, but in both positions. When I remove any of the lugs from the bridged pairs all sound is lost in both positions. I can't get it to turn off I guess. Thanks, again for all your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members badpenguin Posted February 27, 2021 Members Share Posted February 27, 2021 44 minutes ago, keithglacier said: Thanks! I'm missing something here. When I do as instructed here i do not get any sound from either position unless I bridge the 2 pairs of unused lugs together. The top two bridged, middle two consists of one from the pickup hot and the other to the jack hot, bottom two lugs bridged - this creates sound, but in both positions. When I remove any of the lugs from the bridged pairs all sound is lost in both positions. I can't get it to turn off I guess. Thanks, again for all your help! I assume you have a DPDT with 6 lugs. To keep it simple wire the top 2 lugs together, AND GO TO OUTPUT The middle two lugs, wire them together FROM THE PICKUP The last 2 lugs, leave alone. Yeah, I know, it's upside down, but either way, it will do what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keithglacier Posted February 27, 2021 Author Members Share Posted February 27, 2021 Thanks! I am still getting sound in both positions when i solder it that way. I really appreciate your help. Any other suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members badpenguin Posted February 27, 2021 Members Share Posted February 27, 2021 You CAN'T be getting sound from both positions! You must either have the switch on it's side, or the wrong switch. There is a little bar between the two sides of the lugs. You see it in the above pic? If you have it wired like so, it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keithglacier Posted February 27, 2021 Author Members Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 hour ago, badpenguin said: I assume you have a DPDT with 6 lugs. To keep it simple wire the top 2 lugs together, AND GO TO OUTPUT The middle two lugs, wire them together FROM THE PICKUP The last 2 lugs, leave alone. + Here is what I am seeing. Thanks, again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members badpenguin Posted February 27, 2021 Members Share Posted February 27, 2021 yes, that's right, but where is the ground wires? I assume the wires are called 2 conductor wires, with an inner wire, the hot, and an outer wire, the ground. are the grounds connected to each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keithglacier Posted February 27, 2021 Author Members Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 hour ago, badpenguin said: I assume you have a DPDT with 6 lugs. To keep it simple wire the top 2 lugs together, AND GO TO OUTPUT The middle two lugs, wire them together FROM THE PICKUP The last 2 lugs, leave alone. + Here is what I am seeing. Thanks, again! I have a green wire and silver wire from the seymour duncan pickup that go to ground, those all connect to the ground from the bridge and the jack ground connects to those as well. i really appreciate you sticking with me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members badpenguin Posted February 27, 2021 Members Share Posted February 27, 2021 ok, there's no reason why it's not working then. it "might" be the way the switch is wired. Simply cut the wire connecting the two side together. If that doesn't work, I haven't a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keithglacier Posted February 27, 2021 Author Members Share Posted February 27, 2021 24 minutes ago, badpenguin said: yes, that's right, but where is the ground wires? I assume the wires are called 2 conductor wires, with an inner wire, the hot, and an outer wire, the ground. are the grounds connected to each other? 3 minutes ago, badpenguin said: ok, there's no reason why it's not working then. it "might" be the way the switch is wired. Simply cut the wire connecting the two side together. If that doesn't work, I haven't a clue. It didn't work. So maybe im not crazy? Do you recommend a switch i can order quickly to replace this one? Or any other suggestions? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members badpenguin Posted February 27, 2021 Members Share Posted February 27, 2021 a SPST like this. TEMCo 20A 125V ON-ON SPDT 3 Terminal Toggle Switch With Waterproof Boot Cap | eBay You might be able to find one at home Depot or Lowes for about the same price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keithglacier Posted February 27, 2021 Author Members Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 hour ago, badpenguin said: a SPST like this. TEMCo 20A 125V ON-ON SPDT 3 Terminal Toggle Switch With Waterproof Boot Cap | eBay You might be able to find one at home Depot or Lowes for about the same price. thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted February 27, 2021 Moderators Share Posted February 27, 2021 do you have a VOM? It is pretty simple to test the switch [it could be defective]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr.Grumpy Posted February 28, 2021 Members Share Posted February 28, 2021 Hope this isn't too late. You want a kill switch, only with a latching instead of a momentary switch. The switch contacts go between hot and ground. https://guitarelectronics.com/guitar-kill-switch-output-mute-switch/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keithglacier Posted March 1, 2021 Author Members Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 2/27/2021 at 8:47 AM, daddymack said: do you have a VOM? It is pretty simple to test the switch [it could be defective]. Yes, how can I test it? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keithglacier Posted March 1, 2021 Author Members Share Posted March 1, 2021 21 hours ago, Mr.Grumpy said: Hope this isn't too late. You want a kill switch, only with a latching instead of a momentary switch. The switch contacts go between hot and ground. https://guitarelectronics.com/guitar-kill-switch-output-mute-switch/ Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators daddymack Posted March 1, 2021 Moderators Share Posted March 1, 2021 14 hours ago, keithglacier said: Yes, how can I test it? Thanks! clip the [+] lead to the center lugs [input side] of the switch and the [-] to the output side. If the switch reads the same switched on as it does switched off, it is defective. Many of the low-end spdt/dpdt switches coming from China [and elsewhere] do not stand up well to soldering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willie Gee Posted March 4, 2021 Members Share Posted March 4, 2021 On 2/26/2021 at 9:26 PM, keithglacier said: I have a green wire and silver wire from the seymour duncan pickup that go to ground, those all connect to the ground from the bridge and the jack ground connects to those as well. i really appreciate you sticking with me! Hey, I am late to this party ... maybe I am repeating redundant information, but does this article help you at all? https://www.electricherald.com/how-to-make-killswitch-for-guitar/ You should be able to connect the appropriate wires to the lugs, and then the ground(s) and hot to the output jack, and then *finis*? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grant Harding Posted March 8, 2021 Members Share Posted March 8, 2021 On 3/2/2021 at 4:38 AM, daddymack said: clip the [+] lead to the center lugs [input side] of the switch and the [-] to the output side. If the switch reads the same switched on as it does switched off, it is defective. Many of the low-end spdt/dpdt switches coming from China [and elsewhere] do not stand up well to soldering. I suspect this is probably what has happened. If you're new to guitar electronics and have had a few goes at that switch it might be fried. My brother does a lot of soldering and he often clips an alligator lead between the component and the actual solder joint which gives the heat somewhere else to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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