Members bnelly428 Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 I couldn't find the thread, but I have to report that one of the spring loaded XLR female connector that is in the snake broke off and an xlr is now stuck in the channel. So I've had it for about 6 months and this is the first issue (hopefully only) I've had. What are a solid replacement XLR connector for that application, or should I replace it at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 it begins. i believe you were warned, no? neutrik makes good ends. buy a snake from mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jasps Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 I couldn't find the thread, but I have to report that one of the spring loaded XLR female connector that is in the snake broke off and an xlr is now stuck in the channel. So I've had it for about 6 months and this is the first issue (hopefully only) I've had. What are a solid replacement XLR connector for that application, or should I replace it at all? Neutrik D-size. While you're in there replacing the connector, you'd be smart to strain relieve the channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bnelly428 Posted August 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 it begins. i believe you were warned, no?neutrik makes good ends.buy a snake from mark. Lol unless all the channels blow up, im not buying a new one anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bnelly428 Posted August 4, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 Neutrik D-size. While you're in there replacing the connector, you'd be smart to strain relieve the channels. Can you elaborate some? I'm not sure what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted August 4, 2010 Members Share Posted August 4, 2010 The connector termination and strain reliefs are not good. Pull it apart and post a photo, I'll show you from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W. M. Hellinger Posted August 5, 2010 Members Share Posted August 5, 2010 it begins. i believe you were warned, no? neutrik makes good ends. buy a snake from mark. As I understand it, *those* snakes and cables are constructed with "Neutrik" ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bnelly428 Posted August 5, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 5, 2010 Thats the underside of the jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members davidss1 Posted August 5, 2010 Members Share Posted August 5, 2010 i think what aged meant was to remove the front or back cover completely to show all wiring to all sockets and the main cable hole through the chassis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jasps Posted August 5, 2010 Members Share Posted August 5, 2010 As I understand it, *those* snakes and cables are constructed with "Neutrik" ends Yes, it's true. Neutrik knockoff ends. The connectors themselves are a clone of the NC3*X series. The solder terminals are sometimes the same way and other times they are turned 90 degrees, much like the old switchcraft connectors. The logo, if you aren't paying attention, does look like the Neutrik logo. Rolling eyes are appropriate here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jasps Posted August 5, 2010 Members Share Posted August 5, 2010 Can you elaborate some? I'm not sure what you mean. Take a look at a quality snake from a local provider and you'll see. The twisted pairs are just laying around in the box, right? You should bus each row of connections together, tied together vertically and mounted to the box as appropriate, then fan out from that bus to the individual connectors in the row. You'll have to do some work for this snake to be less problematic in the future. Congrats, you bought yourself a headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bnelly428 Posted August 5, 2010 Author Members Share Posted August 5, 2010 i think what aged meant was to remove the front or back cover completely to show all wiring to all sockets and the main cable hole through the chassis doh. I'll do that tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted August 5, 2010 Members Share Posted August 5, 2010 Look at the in-line connectors too... are they IDC style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted August 5, 2010 Members Share Posted August 5, 2010 Look at the in-line connectors too... are they IDC style? oh i dont like those idc connectors on snakes or mic cables. they probably serve some purpose but not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted August 5, 2010 Members Share Posted August 5, 2010 oh i dont like those idc connectors on snakes or mic cables. they probably serve some purpose but not for me. The only purpose they serve is they are cheaper parts and labor-wise. IME, they suck so bad that I do not sell any products made with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unalaska Posted August 5, 2010 Members Share Posted August 5, 2010 In-line connectors? IDC style? elaborate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted August 5, 2010 Members Share Posted August 5, 2010 In-line connectors? IDC style? elaborate... Fan end, not soldered but the wire is mechanically jammed into a slot displacing the insulation. Mediocre at best for mV signal levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unalaska Posted August 5, 2010 Members Share Posted August 5, 2010 Kinda like the amphenol connectors, or the george L's. yeah, not good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted August 5, 2010 Members Share Posted August 5, 2010 neutrik has some bizzare punch down cable ends that i have come across. in the long run i replaced all the damaged ones with used A3's. had i owned the cables myself i would have tossed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dogoth Posted August 6, 2010 Members Share Posted August 6, 2010 Ya, Punch down connections are OK for an immobile telephone backboard but are not my preference for anything that is to be moved around, vibrated etc... I know that Cat 5 RJ45 connectors use this type of connection but they also fail a lot more often than a good mic cord. I could see the possible use for an XLR wall plate that is fixed, that's about it. To the OP: Depending on it's placment & use, I've taken out the XLR locking mechanism entirely on some snake sub boxes (this makes for faster teardown). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Coaster Posted August 6, 2010 Members Share Posted August 6, 2010 i have four snakes with the locking tabs and two without - i usually prefer the ones without. a trip or something that would pull a cord just pulls it out of the snake rather than yaking the whole snake head or tearing the cord apart. course we shouldnt have any layout with trip hazards but {censored} happens. all my amp rack panels have xlr's with tabs, i geuss i dont know any different so i have never thought about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W. M. Hellinger Posted August 6, 2010 Members Share Posted August 6, 2010 Yes, it's true. Neutrik knockoff ends. The connectors themselves are a clone of the NC3*X series. The solder terminals are sometimes the same way and other times they are turned 90 degrees, much like the old switchcraft connectors. The logo, if you aren't paying attention, does look like the Neutrik logo.Rolling eyes are appropriate here. From what I understand, *those* brand of snakes (and possibly other cable products bearing similar or same trade name) have been possibly advertised as being constructed with *genuine Neutrik ends*... not knock-offs. HOWEVER: I'm of the understanding there's Neutrik products and then there's Neutrik products: http://www.neutrik.com/content/home/home.aspx?portal=us&language=1 http://www.neutrik.com.cn/en/index.asp I'll let the gentle readers here sort out the details for themselves, if they care to do so, as I'm probably way beyond any tasteful forum ethics divulging what I have so-far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted August 6, 2010 Members Share Posted August 6, 2010 Telephone punch-down is not a mV level connection. That's why they work (ok). They are nothing but problems for audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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