Members erok123 2,968 Posted September 6, 2019 Members Share Posted September 6, 2019 https://www.guitarcenter.com/Rogue/RA-090-Dreadnought-Acoustic-Guitar-Natural-1274115039668.gc?source=4WWRWXGP&gclid=Cj0KCQjwh8jrBRDQARIsAH7BsXfJtQVDrufxuLdpmrHEgNUNNW9VpcgfHJjrpxh5CHFjO9s31PIWUmIaAsXeEALw_wcB#productDetail You get what you pay for, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members garthman 245 Posted September 6, 2019 Members Share Posted September 6, 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dtct1Xdfgk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members SteinbergerHack 10,796 Posted September 6, 2019 Members Share Posted September 6, 2019 Yes, but is it a good as an Esteban? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members Glenn F 85 Posted September 6, 2019 Members Share Posted September 6, 2019 Ughhh.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members FretFiend. 104 Posted September 6, 2019 Members Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) It'll hold string tension. It'll make music. With a decent setup, it'll play as easy as the best. What it won't have is the refined tone of a higher quality guitar. It has no snob appeal. Oh yeah, it's very affordable. Edited September 6, 2019 by FretFiend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members Mikeo 3,233 Posted September 7, 2019 Members Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 hours ago, erok123 said: https://www.guitarcenter.com/Rogue/RA-090-Dreadnought-Acoustic-Guitar-Natural-1274115039668.gc?source=4WWRWXGP&gclid=Cj0KCQjwh8jrBRDQARIsAH7BsXfJtQVDrufxuLdpmrHEgNUNNW9VpcgfHJjrpxh5CHFjO9s31PIWUmIaAsXeEALw_wcB#productDetail You get what you pay for, right? Not always, but my wife ordered her granddaughter a Rogue guitar against my wishes. It was bad. We sent it back. There's junk guitars and then there Rogue. You get what you pay for in this case. 252 Reviews, 157 peeps gave it 5 stars. 57 gave it 4 stars. That probably 200 people that ain't playing the guitar in the near future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members Emory 241 Posted September 7, 2019 Members Share Posted September 7, 2019 Hmmm I wanted to say "better than nothing" but on second thought a really crap guitar could put you off guitar for life. Along lines of puking from too much Tequila.... That said had third thought, along lines of British bake off or some BS reality show... Get 4 or 5 top rated luthiers, give them each one of these jewels, and vids of each of them doing a set up as best they could. See if any of them can turn lead into gold, or at least fools gold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members Glenn F 85 Posted September 7, 2019 Members Share Posted September 7, 2019 The OP's avatar looks slightly scurrilous. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members Neal 115 Posted September 7, 2019 Members Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Glenn F said: The OP's avatar looks slightly scurrilous. I believe it’s a visual euphemism. Appropriate, I give it a thumbs up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members DeepEnd 2,684 Posted September 7, 2019 Members Share Posted September 7, 2019 Actually a $90 guitar on sale for $57. If it's structurally sound and properly set up it might be a decent beater. I learned on a $50 Ensenada most of you would laugh at: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderators daddymack 3,257 Posted September 7, 2019 Moderators Share Posted September 7, 2019 19 hours ago, Emory said: ... could put you off guitar for life. Along lines of puking from too much Tequila.... puking from too much tequila never put me off playing guitar... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members Neal 115 Posted September 7, 2019 Members Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) “Actually a $90 guitar on sale for $57. If it's structurally sound and properly set up it might be a decent beater. I learned on a $50 Ensenada most of you would laugh at: “ Quote from Deepend. I would bet many of us here learned our first chords, found our first rhythm, played our first real song, on a guitar that years later we cringe thinking about. Mine was a Sears archtop with a cracked neck propped with a curtain hook, first chord was “C”(pretty sure), first song “”HOTRS”. But we get by. I woulda sacrificed a chicken to Ozzy for that particular guitar. Edited September 7, 2019 by Neal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members Glenn F 85 Posted September 8, 2019 Members Share Posted September 8, 2019 Yeah, my first guitar was an Aria 12 string I bought off my brother for $50CAD when I was 14. It was never strung as a 12er, yet the neck had buckled by the time I was 18. Then again, $50 bucks in 1974 is a lot more than $50 these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members DeepEnd 2,684 Posted September 8, 2019 Members Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, Glenn F said: Yeah, my first guitar was an Aria 12 string I bought off my brother for $50CAD when I was 14. It was never strung as a 12er, yet the neck had buckled by the time I was 18. Then again, $50 bucks in 1974 is a lot more than $50 these days. $50 in 1974 would have been about $255 in 2018: http://www.in2013dollars.com/1974-dollars-in-2018?amount=50. My Ensenada that cost $50 in 1971 would have cost $310 in 2018. I don't recall it being a great guitar so perhaps quality of cheap instruments has improved over the years. Based on inflation alone, a $90 guitar like the one in the OP would have cost around $14 in 1971, really cheap stuff. Edited September 9, 2019 by DeepEnd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members Glenn F 85 Posted September 8, 2019 Members Share Posted September 8, 2019 Well, it lasted me 4 years, almost exactly, though I don't how long brother owned it. I don't remember there being anything wrong with it, per se, in terms of playability. I was pretty damned determined to learn, though, and by the time I gave it to someone when I was 18, I was capable of not making a complete fool of myself on the guitar. I don't know how I would've progressed had the guitar been utterly unplayable, though. These days, you can get a decent guitar in the 300-350 range, and if set up properly, will carry a determined beginner a long way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Members FretFiend. 104 Posted September 9, 2019 Members Share Posted September 9, 2019 Interesting conversation. My first guitar was a brand new Sears Silvertone for Christmas. Within six months of owning it, its action grew to over a half inch. It was years before I got a real guitar. True story. I should have been so lucky as to have the likes of a Rogue. Damn, I could have been as good as Tony Rice if it wasn't for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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