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Asking opinions of the engineers here: why are older recordings so often so much better?

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I have no idea why. I just know every time I listen to stuff like this, 

it’s easy to for me to get really bored 99% of Records  from the Beatles to the present.

Lieber and Stoller hammer another nail into the coffin of modern music. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Easy Listener said:

One artist I recently rediscovered is Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass. Sure, some of the recordings seem to be influenced by the Wall of Sound, but some are truly amazing, as are the arrangements and the musicianship. There is a reason there are a couple of copies of that stuff at every garage sale and Goodwill in the country. He sold a ton of it. People liked it.

I have not figured out how to post videos beyond just including the link, but this is relevant, I think. It's called "Recording, '50s style: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q-scxybnp0

Carol Kaye told me that most of the players for the TB in the studio  were studio folks. She told me the name of the guy who played Herb Alpert's part but I don't remember his name.

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6 minutes ago, Telecruiser said:

Carol Kaye told me that most of the players for the TB in the studio  were studio folks. She told me the name of the guy who played Herb Alpert's part but I don't remember his name.

That would honestly not surprise me that someone else played his part. Come to think of it, wasn't he the trumpet player for The Committments? :D

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3 hours ago, Phil O'Keefe said:

 

Q. What did the Pro Tools engineer say to the band after they played the worst take he’d ever heard in his life?

A. That will do... come on in. ;)

The punchline as I have always heard it is, "that sucked, come on in." 

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34 minutes ago, Telecruiser said:

Carol Kaye told me that most of the players for the TB in the studio  were studio folks. She told me the name of the guy who played Herb Alpert's part but I don't remember his name.

Sal Marquez.

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I am down with the new VST's, strings and all.  While they are an engineers nightmare, or can be I suppose, they are a song writers delight.  MIDI/usb/AIO etc...bring it on. 

Yes the click can be a culprit but #methinks maximum volume has timbre, accent, emphasis, force, inflection, intonation, modulation, resonance and tone color all but gone, feather touch, nah! 

Too bad, but I think it will make a come back somehow, I just wish the engineers would have walked out when the first customer paid for over driven compression.  There may be studio's that have gone back I don't know, it would be nice though.

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2 hours ago, Easy Listener said:

That would honestly not surprise me that someone else played his part. Come to think of it, wasn't he the trumpet player for The Committments? :D

Pretty sure it's him playing on the first couple of albums.   As time went on he got busy with touring and producing other acts.   He was cranking out those TJB records with a pretty simple formula at that point.  Just get it done quick and easy was probably the attitude, I'm sure.

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3 hours ago, Donny G said:

I am down with the new VST's, strings and all.  While they are an engineers nightmare, or can be I suppose, they are a song writers delight. 

Why? I never blame the tools :D

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