Members Gromit Posted March 19, 2019 Members Share Posted March 19, 2019 I guess it's arguably a compilation and not an album? Half is music for the film, half is a collection of singles. True, and in some places it was only released as an EP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 Good choice, but wasn't Magical Mystery Tour in there before the White album? I went off of UK albums, which most fans consider to be the definitive releases. MMT was released as a double EP in the UK originally - it wasn't until it was re-released on CD in 1987 that it came out in the UK as an album - in a strange reversal, it's really the only "American" Beatles release that's now considered the definitive version. But still... it's a good observation and a valid point for debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Red Ant Posted March 19, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 19, 2019 Bringing it all Back Home Highway 61 Blonde on Blonde I know that a lot of out and out musos hate the guy, but he was literally on fire through this period. Guilty. Not just the guy, but the whole genre, with some few notable exceptions, David Bromberg being the most exceptional [video=youtube;V2CwkDm1tE0] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sirfun Posted March 19, 2019 Members Share Posted March 19, 2019 Bringing it all Back Home Highway 61 Blonde on Blonde I know that a lot of out and out musos hate the guy, but he was literally on fire through this period. I love the morphing of goofing around (hows bout that mike adjuster ?? ) to playing as cold blooded as jimmy rogers in half a heart beat !! ) [video=youtube;OeP4FFr88SQ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Red Ant Posted March 19, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 19, 2019 Starless and Bible Black Red USA - King Crimson I went with Lark's Tongue 1st and left off USA, cause its a live record - and awfully recorded and terrible sounding to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 How about... Guitar TownExit 0Copperhead Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Ed Phobes- Posted March 19, 2019 Members Share Posted March 19, 2019 S/t Rated R SftD They hit paydirt with those 3. Seminal albums in an admittedly fairly limited genre, that I don't even listen to anymore 😂 After much QotSA listening, I like the first (s/t) the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Ed Phobes- Posted March 19, 2019 Members Share Posted March 19, 2019 I went with Lark's Tongue 1st and left off USA, cause its a live record - and awfully recorded and terrible sounding to boot. Let's compromise and make it a four-album run. It's just so great to hear Bruford/Wetton play live, even if the sound qulaity is suspect. I just read that Fripp compared their playing to "a flying brick wall." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Red Ant Posted March 19, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 19, 2019 Let's compromise and make it a four-album run. It's just so great to hear Bruford/Wetton play live, even if the sound qulaity is suspect. I just read that Fripp compared their playing to "a flying brick wall." A flying brick wall is right! There's video of the Central Park concert on YouTube - again, the quality is atrocious, but the playing is out of this world. I've seen the Bruford/Levin combo numerous times for the Discipline/Beat tours, and it was great in its own way, but Bruford/Wetton remains my favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gromit Posted March 19, 2019 Members Share Posted March 19, 2019 I went off of UK albums, which most fans consider to be the definitive releases. MMT was released as a double EP in the UK originally - it wasn't until it was re-released on CD in 1987 that it came out in the UK as an album - in a strange reversal, it's really the only "American" Beatles release that's now considered the definitive version. But still... it's a good observation and a valid point for debate. I'm fairly sure I bought my copy of MMT in the early '80s on vinyl in the UK on Parlophone. Probably an import, but I never noticed if it was. You're correct that it wasn't released in 1967 in the UK as an LP, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gubu Posted March 19, 2019 Members Share Posted March 19, 2019 After much QotSA listening, I like the first (s/t) the best. After having been a YOOOGE Kyuss fan in my teenage stoner years, I found s/t really not my thing at first, until I happened to try it out on my MD Walkman in a hotel in Penang on a backpacker trip in 2001 or so. I {censored}ing wore that album out on that trip and QotSA became the soundtrack to my life for a few years after that. It was like ya, we're partying, we're taking drugs, we're {censored}ing ROCKING, and it's the complete opposite of ACDC, because we are {censored}ing INTELLIGENT woke mother{censored}ers. These days? Meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members redEL34 Posted March 20, 2019 Members Share Posted March 20, 2019 Black Sabbath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onelife Posted March 20, 2019 Members Share Posted March 20, 2019 I don't know if this counts but... The Gist Of The Gemini - Gino VanelliLong Misty Days - Robin TrowerHideaway - AmericaWired - Jeff Beck ... are all albums, released in 1976, that Geoff Emerick was somehow involved in recording Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SteinbergerHack Posted March 20, 2019 Members Share Posted March 20, 2019 I don't know if this counts but... The Gist Of The Gemini - Gino Vanelli Long Misty Days - Robin Trower Hideaway - America Wired - Jeff Beck ... are all albums, released in 1976, that Geoff Emerick was somehow involved in recording Hmmmm..... not sure I would have picked any of those as top examples for the artist, except maybe Wired. Brother to Brother? Bridge of Sighs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onelife Posted March 20, 2019 Members Share Posted March 20, 2019 Hmmmm..... not sure I would have picked any of those as top examples for the artist, except maybe Wired. Brother to Brother? Bridge of Sighs? My comment wasn't about the artist but about the recording engineer - the same guy who recorded Revolver, Sgt Pepper and bits of Rubber Soul and The White Album Geoff Emerick recorded "Bridge of Sighs" as well but I just pick three consecutive albums for the sake of the thread I noticed that many of the albums that had significant impact on me, especially as a guitarist, were recorded by Mr Emerick. Maybe it was the sound of the recorded guitar that was the draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Red Ant Posted March 20, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 20, 2019 My comment wasn't about the artist but about the recording engineer - the same guy who recorded Revolver, Sgt Pepper and bits of Rubber Soul and The White Album Geoff Emerick recorded "Bridge of Sighs" as well but I just pick three consecutive albums for the sake of the thread I noticed that many of the albums that had significant impact on me, especially as a guitarist, were recorded by Mr Emerick. Maybe it was the sound of the recorded guitar that was the draw. Mine also, particularly early in life. But with the benefit of hindsight and broader listening, I have to say The Beatles in particular had a whole lot of gawdawful guitar tones going on. Of course its nigh impossible to separate the guitar tone from iconic recordings which are indelibly burned into our brains, but if I were to attempt objectivity, I'd say that there are a whole lot of failed experiments there, tonally. Lots of thin, abrasive, spiky unpleasantness. Again, it all WORKS - whether because of the artistry of the creators involved, or because so many of us imbibed this music with mother's milk, so to speak, and actually learned about guitar tone from those records, or both, who knows. But again, attempting objectivity, I can't possibly classify the solo on Savoy Truffle as anything approaching "good guitar tone", to give just one example. I love it to death nonetheless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members moogerfooger Posted March 20, 2019 Members Share Posted March 20, 2019 Tommy whos next quadrophenia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Red Ant Posted March 20, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 20, 2019 Tommy whos next quadrophenia Definitely a 1-2-3 punch, and a creative peak. Not a huge Who fan, and I think 2 out of 3 of those albums have some weak material, but undeniably an impressive 3-album run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NOS68 Posted March 20, 2019 Members Share Posted March 20, 2019 RamonesLeave HomeRocket to Russia Road to RuinEnd of the Century Pleasant Dreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sirfun Posted March 20, 2019 Members Share Posted March 20, 2019 Ramones Leave Home Rocket to Russia Road to Ruin End of the Century Pleasant Dreams (chuckle !! ) okay-now some thoughts on the runners up !! ) BORN ON THE BAYOU GREEN RIVER WILLY AND THE POOR BOYS COSMOS FACTORY The first 2 have better singles off of !! ) The second pair are better albums !! ) (overall-might belong with the others ?? ) the albums that bookend these 2 are good but not in the same league !! ( : Hell and Back ------------------------------------------- I guess if you put For Those About To Rock in there they might belong with the others ?? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zipperhead Posted March 20, 2019 Members Share Posted March 20, 2019 But again, attempting objectivity, I can't possibly classify the solo on Savoy Truffle as anything approaching "good guitar tone", to give just one example. I love it to death nonetheless The electric guitar is a magic wand. Who says it has to go through a mic'd tube amp? George did a lot of tracks going direct and overloading the mixer input. I think Revolution was another example. Those sounds cut through on the radio and you'd be hard pressed to find another guitarist at the time who was using those tones. One of the things I love about the (later) Beatles records were that they were looking for new sounds. I would describe the guitar sound on Savoy Truffle as "searing". Good guitar tone? As Andres Segovia said: "The electric guitar is not a musical instrument". Ergo, anything goes! Zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Easy Listener Posted March 20, 2019 Members Share Posted March 20, 2019 Any artist / band' date=' any genre - who IYO has had the best three consecutive album run? [/quote'] I'll go with Genesis. The run, in total, for me is: Nursery Cryme Foxtrot Selling England By the Pound Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Trick of the Tail Wind $ Wuthering If I had to pick a sweet spot it would be Foxtrot through Lamb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 Mine also, particularly early in life. But with the benefit of hindsight and broader listening, I have to say The Beatles in particular had a whole lot of gawdawful guitar tones going on. Of course its nigh impossible to separate the guitar tone from iconic recordings which are indelibly burned into our brains, but if I were to attempt objectivity, I'd say that there are a whole lot of failed experiments there, tonally. Lots of thin, abrasive, spiky unpleasantness. They really liked the treble, didn't they? And the amps they were using often had a lot of brightness to begin with - and then they'd have the EMI engineers boost the crud out of it too. Again, it all WORKS - whether because of the artistry of the creators involved, or because so many of us imbibed this music with mother's milk, so to speak, and actually learned about guitar tone from those records, or both, who knows. But again, attempting objectivity, I can't possibly classify the solo on Savoy Truffle as anything approaching "good guitar tone", to give just one example. I love it to death nonetheless While it's far from a "good" guitar tone, it absolutely works, as you said, in the context it was used in. Like you, I love it! The crunchy sax section too - it's far from a "good" sax section recording, but the Beatles didn't want "good" - they were deliberately looking for "different." IIRC, George Martin mentioned that something (I think it was the guitar? or maybe it was the whole mix?) on that song was too bright - and George Harrison basically shut him down by saying he liked it that way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zooey Posted March 20, 2019 Members Share Posted March 20, 2019 I definitely have mixed feelings about chasing the perfect guitar tone. To many guitarists, the perfect tone seems to be whatever sounds polite and unoffensive playing at low volumes, by yourself. Those kind of tones rarely work well in the context of an actual band. Another thing that people do is reflexively change the pickups and do other mods on every new guitar they acquire with the result of making all their guitars sound same-y. These days, I'm much more into preserving the warts and quirks of guitars as they were designed. To me, a G&L should be brighter than a Fender. A Jazzmaster shouldn't have as much sustain as a Strat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 I don't know if this counts but... The Gist Of The Gemini - Gino Vanelli Long Misty Days - Robin Trower Hideaway - America Wired - Jeff Beck ... are all albums, released in 1976, that Geoff Emerick was somehow involved in recording If I was going to pick three Geoff Emerick-recorded or produced records, I think I'd go with... Revolver Band On The Run Imperial Bedroom Of course, that leaves off Pepper, but if I had to pick only one Beatles record that he recorded, Revolver would be my favorite. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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