Phil O'Keefe Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I learned this game from someone at Fender, and I thought some of you might enjoy it. Basically the premise is, you have to pick someone from the named famous band that you'd be willing to get rid of and replace with someone else. The replacement could be anyone else, and while you can suggest the replacement if you want to, you don't have to name one - but you do have to pick one person in the band that you're going to get rid of, and explain why you've picked that person over the other band members. With the rules explained, let's get started. We'll get the discussion started with The Police. Who do you get rid of? Sting? Andy Summers? Stewart Copeland? And why would you drop the ax on the person you selected instead of one of the other band members? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gubu Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 Sting. So the other 2 could get on with playing art-punk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 Sting. So the other 2 could get on with playing art-punk But you lose the lead vocalist if you cut Sting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hoot Owl Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 Admit it, Phil. You like Sting because he's balding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hoot Owl Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 Roxanne... Sorry, had to. I musta heard that song a hundred times while playing pool in Santa Cruz, back in the day. We spent days at the beach, bodysurfing, and nights at the pool hall, drinking the cheapest beer we could find - Buckhorn. I can't play this game. The Police worked well together. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any band I'd replace someone in. I guess in a general sense though, any metal singer who doesn't sing. The ones who growl like Satan. Can't stand that crap. And I'm pro-Satan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members moogerfooger Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 Stewart Copeland - he was wasting his time in that band. I was never a police fan but I think Stewart is a giant talent and has skills way beyond what he was able to show in the police. just look as his body of work to see the depth of his talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members emerson biggens Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 I'd second Stewart Copeland, but because I think the Police mined that quasi-reggae thing to death. Find a guy who doesn't overplay so much and see where it takes you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danocoustic Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 It's ironic that Sting has had the most commercial success of the Police men; while not without his talents, he seems to me to be the least of the trio, talentwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hoot Owl Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 Okay, here's one. Macy Grey. Cannot stand her singing. Let's replace her with no one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hoot Owl Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 It's ironic that Sting has had the most commercial success of the Police men; while not without his talents' date=' he seems to me to be the least of the trio, talentwise.[/quote']I think he's a great singer. His voice is so distinctive and it works, for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oldsoapbars Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 Copeland. He's the easiest to replace. Give me a pocket drummer any day. with who? Charlie Watts isn't busy these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members emerson biggens Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 But you lose the lead vocalist if you cut Sting... and you'd also lose your material. I couldn't hum a thing from the combined Summers/Copeland canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danocoustic Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 I think he's a great singer. His voice is so distinctive and it works, for me. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hoot Owl Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 Copeland. He's the easiest to replace. Give me a pocket drummer any day. with who? Charlie Watts isn't busy these days Watts to the Police. Ringo to the Stones. Perfect. Paul on bass too (although you'd have to chain him down to keep him in line). Paul would be a great backup singer too. So, there's my change. Paul for Bill. I have no problem with Bill's playing but in terms of stage presence, he's about the worst there ever was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 Actually, my favorite person in that band - the one person in that band that I'd pick last to cut - is Stewart Copeland. He's one of my favorite musicians, and definitely one of my favorite drummers. Not to knock Sting, but not all baldies are deserving of my admiration just because they're bald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members E-money Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 Copeland. He's the easiest to replace. Give me a pocket drummer any day. with who? Charlie Watts isn't busy these days Did you ever read the story about the recording of the Synchronicity record? Apparently they recorded their parts separately, and Sting went in later and erased some of Copeland's drum tracks; I think it was on Every Breath You Take. Sting was sick of all that extra hi-hat stuff and wanted a straight beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 Roxanne... Sorry, had to. I musta heard that song a hundred times while playing pool in Santa Cruz, back in the day. We spent days at the beach, bodysurfing, and nights at the pool hall, drinking the cheapest beer we could find - Buckhorn. I can't play this game. The Police worked well together. Sorry - but you HAVE to pick someone to cut. Those are the rules, and that's why the game is called Between A Rock And A Hard Place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 Stewart Copeland - he was wasting his time in that band. I was never a police fan but I think Stewart is a giant talent and has skills way beyond what he was able to show in the police. just look as his body of work to see the depth of his talent He's irreplaceable IMO. I can't think of any other drummer who would have fit better for that band than Stewart. But I do agree with you that he's just a monster talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hoot Owl Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 Fail. You forgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 Did you ever read the story about the recording of the Synchronicity record? Apparently they recorded their parts separately, and Sting went in later and erased some of Copeland's drum tracks; I think it was on Every Breath You Take. Sting was sick of all that extra hi-hat stuff and wanted a straight beat. I'm not a big fan of musicians who overplay or who step on the other players, but I honestly don't think Stewart was really guilty of that with his playing in the Police. It was a trio for crying out loud, and Summers was pretty minimalistic with his playing, and usually played clean, so he was taking up even less of the "space" than he would have if he used more distorted guitar tones. Do most people accuse Ginger Baker of overplaying with Cream? He was at least as busy, if not more so than Stewart was with the Police. Ditto that for Keith Moon and the Who and John Bonham with Led Zeppelin. When you've only got three instruments + vocals, there's a lot more space, and someone's gotta fill it in order to keep things interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members emerson biggens Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 I think Keith Moon would have upped my Interest factor in the Police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danocoustic Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 I'm not a big fan of musicians who overplay or who step on the other players, but I honestly don't think Stewart was really guilty of that with his playing in the Police. It was a trio for crying out loud, and Summers was pretty minimalistic with his playing, and usually played clean, so he was taking up even less of the "space" than he would have if he used more distorted guitar tones. Do most people accuse Ginger Baker of overplaying with Cream? He was at least as busy, if not more so than Stewart was with the Police. Ditto that for Keith Moon and the Who and John Bonham with Led Zeppelin. When you've only got three instruments + vocals, there's a lot more space, and someone's gotta fill it in order to keep things interesting... I accuse GB of overplaying in Cream! BIG TIME!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 I'm not a big fan of musicians who overplay or who step on the other players, but I honestly don't think Stewart was really guilty of that with his playing in the Police. It was a trio for crying out loud, and Summers was pretty minimalistic with his playing, and usually played clean, so he was taking up even less of the "space" than he would have if he used more distorted guitar tones. Do most people accuse Ginger Baker of overplaying with Cream? He was at least as busy, if not more so than Stewart was with the Police. Ditto that for Keith Moon and the Who and John Bonham with Led Zeppelin. When you've only got three instruments + vocals, there's a lot more space, and someone's gotta fill it in order to keep things interesting... Hard for anyone to really “overplay” too much in a trio format. You can’t lose anyone from the Police and have them still be the Police. “Synchronicity”, especially side two, really pointed the way towards Sting’s solo career. Not at all surprising that was their last album. I remember telling a friend upon first hearing “Ghost in the Machine” that I thought hey had taken the reggae/ska thing as far as they could. Sure enough, there wasn’t much of that on “Synchronicity” what a great band! Five great albums and done. You cant lose Sting, he wrote all the songs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danocoustic Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 Hard for anyone to really “overplay” too much in a trio format. You can’t lose anyone from the Police and have them still be the Police. “Synchronicity”, especially side two, really pointed the way towards Sting’s solo career. Not at all surprising that was their last album. I remember telling a friend upon first hearing “Ghost in the Machine” that I thought hey had taken the reggae/ska thing as far as they could. Sure enough, there wasn’t much of that on “Synchronicity” what a great band! Five great albums and done. You cant lose Sting, he wrote all the songs! Some good points here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Ed Phobes- Posted April 20, 2018 Members Share Posted April 20, 2018 Rush Neil Peart out...Bill Bruford in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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