Members I stink at bass Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 I know that it is Behringer, but I am not one to pass judgement until I actually try them myself. http://www.americanmusical.com/Item--i-BEH-B812NEO-LIST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 I have a pair of their ancestors - the B412DSP . I don't use them a lot because they are stoopid heavy (65 lbs) but the newer ones are quite a bit lighter. I hang on to them because they have no real resale value, are stoopid loud, sound OK, and for outdoor gigs I'd not cry if they got rained on. I've run them with trash bags on them with no problem of overheating. When I first got them I ran them into the limiters with lots of low end for a couple hours in an attempt to blow them up but was unable to. I got them at a cheap price kinda for yucks - I figured I'd blow them up and return them but they proved to be quite usable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members modulusman Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 I have a pair of their ancestors - the B412DSP . I don't use them a lot because they are stoopid heavy (65 lbs) but the newer ones are quite a bit lighter. I hang on to them because they have no real resale value, are stoopid loud, sound OK, and for outdoor gigs I'd not cry if they got rained on. I've run them with trash bags on them with no problem of overheating. When I first got them I ran them into the limiters with lots of low end for a couple hours in an attempt to blow them up but was unable to. I got them at a cheap price kinda for yucks - I figured I'd blow them up and return them but they proved to be quite usable. Note to self, Never let Roadranger use any of my gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 Note to self, Never let Roadranger use any of my gear. Then you'd really like the guy I have my monitors and Rog subs loaned out to right now. The 10" coaxial monitors are good for about 250wrms and he's got them on an iTech5000 . The 800wrms subs have 2500w to each (4 ohms each, one per side of another 5000). He's downsizing from 8 lab subs I think and was caught short waiting for his new SRX728S's (JBL's still behind) and some powered monitors to come in (replacing PRX612M's and PRX615's). Oh, and his 5000's are for sale to be replaced by 12000's . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Axisplayer Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 That sounds like Silas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 That sounds like Silas! He's actually pretty careful with stuff but certainly isn't looking for stuff to last 20 years like some on here . The iTechs have awesome limiters and allow 250w monitors to survive being fed 1250 (potential) watts just fine . I wish I could justify owning some but IPR is just fine at my level and usage . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stangconv Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 I also had the 412dsp. I'll echo RR, heavy stupid loud and pretty tough. Make very good practice room monitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 Bragging about blowing stuff up or even trying to blow stuff up is about as childish as it gets IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 Bragging about blowing stuff up or even trying to blow stuff up is about as childish as it gets IMO.IMO you'd have to be pretty stoopid to NOT beat on 'ringer gear before you'd trust it at a gig. I beat on it and now trust it - YMMV . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KF650SB1000 Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 Silas does have killer rig at the moment; he a running David Gunness's Fulcrum rig. Those speakers sound great with the basic processing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drumstix Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 Then you'd really like the guy I have my monitors and Rog subs loaned out to right now. The 10" coaxial monitors are good for about 250wrms and he's got them on an iTech5000 . The 800wrms subs have 2500w to each (4 ohms each, one per side of another 5000). He's downsizing from 8 lab subs I think and was caught short waiting for his new SRX728S's (JBL's still behind) and some powered monitors to come in (replacing PRX612M's and PRX615's). Oh, and his 5000's are for sale to be replaced by 12000's . Are the Th-Mini's 4ohms? Or, different subs? What monitors did he end up ordering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 Silas does have killer rig at the moment; he a running David Gunness's Fulcrum rig.He actually only has the tops - and yes, they are mind bending . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 Are the Th-Mini's 4ohms? Or, different subs?No, they are my "big subs": http://www.speakerplans.com/index.php?id=186horn 4 ohm Omega Pro's in them that work great with an IPR3000. I really wish I could have bought the TH-Mini's with 4 ohm drivers so I'd not be messin' about with an iNuke to drive them . What monitors did he end up ordering?That's top secret for now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drumstix Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 He's actually pretty careful with stuff but certainly isn't looking for stuff to last 20 years like some on here . The iTechs have awesome limiters and allow 250w monitors to survive being fed 1250 (potential) watts just fine . I wish I could justify owning some but IPR is just fine at my level and usage . Yeah Peavey is killing me! When are those big IPR's coming out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 Yeah Peavey is killing me! When are those big IPR's coming out?Sweetwater sez they will have IPR4500's the week of 9/25 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sibyrnes Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 I figured I'd blow them up and return them I sure hope there aren't any newbies here that are taking that as professional advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stangconv Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 No, they are my "big subs": http://www.speakerplans.com/index.php?id=186horn 4 ohm Omega Pro's in them that work great with an IPR3000. I really wish I could have bought the TH-Mini's with 4 ohm drivers so I'd not be messin' about with an iNuke to drive them .That's top secret for now . How do they sound? I was actually looking at building some subs for a project.... Something LOUD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drumstix Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 Sweetwater sez they will have IPR4500's the week of 9/25 . Awesome, I will be looking for that date. My old church had a pair of the 12" Behringer powered boxes that were used as mains. Very small church mind you. Maybe 50 peeps. They really didnt sound bad at the low volumes we used them at. The Behringer mixer on the other hand was horrible. That said, I would spend a extra 100 bucks or so and get the RCF 310's or 312's. Just from the users reviews on the forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted September 6, 2011 Members Share Posted September 6, 2011 How do they sound? I was actually looking at building some subs for a project.... Something LOUD.Like most horn subs they don't go very low but they actually can get as loud as lab subs at one frequency (a peak on the Rog's, a dip on the labs ). I'd not worry about covering 500 indoors with them - about the same number outdoors at country fair type volumes (AKA not thumpin' the heck outta folks not right at the stage). With just an IPR3000 it was uncomfortable to be within 20 feet of them clustered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaBender Posted September 7, 2011 Members Share Posted September 7, 2011 Back to the subject of B active speakers, it's hard to keep your eye on the bouncing ball. There's also a more expensive 912 model out now. http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHB912NEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted September 7, 2011 Members Share Posted September 7, 2011 Back to the subject of B active speakers, it's hard to keep your eye on the bouncing ball. There's also a more expensive 912 model out now.WooHoo! - a QSC "K" slash JBL "PRX" competitor that goes to "12" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stangconv Posted September 7, 2011 Members Share Posted September 7, 2011 I wish someone would compare them to other powered speakers. I like my Ringers over my Proel subs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twostone Posted September 7, 2011 Members Share Posted September 7, 2011 Note to self, Never let Roadranger use any of my gear. I hear bro note well taken don't let RR near your gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaBender Posted September 7, 2011 Members Share Posted September 7, 2011 The strangest thing is that Behr's specs for the B812NEO and B912NEO appear identical, though the cab looks a bit different, but there's about a $150 price difference. B claims the price on the 812 is a "summer special", but maybe it's actually a closeout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted September 7, 2011 Members Share Posted September 7, 2011 The strangest thing is that Behr's specs for the B812NEO and B912NEO appear identical, though the cab looks a bit different, but there's about a $150 price difference. B claims the price on the 812 is a "summer special", but maybe it's actually a closeout.No, even the previous versions had two models - one has a full grill over the LF section and is intended (according to them) for install and corporate type gigs. They had the same list price as I recall. I ended up with the somewhat fugly B412DSP's as I got them as refurbs cheap . There was actually a full grill version of the RCF 310A out but it is now discontinued - I tried to get those instead of the "plastic space alien" version but no joy. Both the "K" and "PRX" speakers have a much more professional look to them for those doing events where it matters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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