Members Greg Adams Posted October 31, 2011 Members Share Posted October 31, 2011 Anyone use lavalier mics for public speaking? I need to invest in new wireless lapel mic.I do a lot of weddings where there is a minister on the site of the reception a lot.I have a older Jensen wireless headset/lapel combo,the headset works great,but when i use the lapel mic,it seems i have to turn the volume up quite a bit to pick up his or her voice to be loud enough. I know that the mic has to be positioned correctly to pick up their voice but,sometimes,depending on what they are wearing,it is hard to find the right location. I am looking for something that has a good direction pattern,anyone have any recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flogger59 Posted October 31, 2011 Members Share Posted October 31, 2011 A lavelier has a tough job. If you want gain before feedback, use a headset mic like a Countryman. Lavevliers suffer because of the inverse square law, they have to be further from the source, usually off axis, and often get shadowed by the chin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mogwix Posted October 31, 2011 Members Share Posted October 31, 2011 Lavs are great for video, but bad for amplified audio. Cardioid lavs are a pain, because the effects of boundary and proximity become problems. Omni lavs sound better and actually do a good job of isolating voice (no matter the position), but getting them loud enough for amplified speech can be tricky. People don't like wearing headsets, especially large and obtrusive headsets that tend to come with cheap wireless systems. It really depends on the volume requirements and where the person speaking is positioned in relation to the speakers amplifying the audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BillESC Posted November 1, 2011 Members Share Posted November 1, 2011 Take a look at Audio Technica's BP892cL4-TH MicroSet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dogoth Posted November 1, 2011 Members Share Posted November 1, 2011 Before performers got over being self concious about wearing headworn mics, Broadway sound designers used to hang tiny mics in wigs, on glasses (beards are great if you can get it right) and all kinds of wierd places (of course they had months of rehearsals to find out what worked and what didn't). Does the minister wear a rug? (just joking :-). What Mogwix said is basicly correct. In a SR situation you will never get the quality from a lav as you will from a headworn mic just due to it's positioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WynnD Posted November 1, 2011 Members Share Posted November 1, 2011 The countryman mics are the better answer. Lavaliers are great for broadcast, lousy for live sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dennis a Posted November 1, 2011 Members Share Posted November 1, 2011 I don't do much theatrical sound but I log quite a few corporate presentation miles on lavalier mics. The more time I spend with them, I find the gap between them and headset mics becomes smaller. When purchasing equipment for a lavalier set up, bargain hunting is not the key to success. You will need both a mic and a sound system with a flat response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members karlw Posted November 1, 2011 Members Share Posted November 1, 2011 Lavs are great for video, but bad for amplified audio. Cardioid lavs are a pain, because the effects of boundary and proximity become problems. Omni lavs sound better and actually do a good job of isolating voice (no matter the position), but getting them loud enough for amplified speech can be tricky. People don't like wearing headsets, especially large and obtrusive headsets that tend to come with cheap wireless systems. It really depends on the volume requirements and where the person speaking is positioned in relation to the speakers amplifying the audio. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted November 1, 2011 Members Share Posted November 1, 2011 I don't do much theatrical sound but I log quite a few corporate presentation miles on lavalier mics. The more time I spend with them, I find the gap between them and headset mics becomes smaller. When purchasing equipment for a lavalier set up, bargain hunting is not the key to success. You will need both a mic and a sound system with a flat response. This is what I have found as well. The better the gear, the better a lav will work. A headset will just about always work better but if the user won't wear one, then it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scodiddly Posted November 1, 2011 Members Share Posted November 1, 2011 The Shure WL-185 cardioid lav is something of a classic - not super expensive, and still the favorite of many corporate guys who could afford more expensive lavs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WynnD Posted November 1, 2011 Members Share Posted November 1, 2011 I don't do much theatrical sound but I log quite a few corporate presentation miles on lavalier mics. The more time I spend with them, I find the gap between them and headset mics becomes smaller. When purchasing equipment for a lavalier set up, bargain hunting is not the key to success. You will need both a mic and a sound system with a flat response. A room where everyone is sitting quietly and paying attention to you is one of those rare cases where a lavalier works in a live sound setting. Under circumstances like that, you wouldn't need a amp for an acoustic guitar for it to be heard either. I still don't like them for live sound situations, but this is one that works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted November 2, 2011 Members Share Posted November 2, 2011 I do prabably 10 or so gigs a year where it's quite a bit louder, and lavs can work quite well. My mains are flown pretty far up stage too, and as long as position is good and the talent has some basic projection technique, it's notthe end of the world by any stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Greg Adams Posted November 5, 2011 Author Members Share Posted November 5, 2011 Thanks everyone for your input.I think i will just stick with the one i have, and just turn up the gain when it is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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