Phil O'Keefe Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Nice. I'm mostly familiar with the Radiohead song. I couldn't make out the phaser because it was either tuned down a bit so it's not too much effect. How should one describe the phaser sound? Is it a mix of flange and chorus? It sure does sound like that. Listen to the electric guitar that comes in at 0: 09 or so... that part has a lot of phase shifting on it. Phase shifters have more in common with flangers than with chorus, although they're different from either of those effects. Here's a video you might enjoy - not only does it have some good examples of what a phase shifter sounds like, there's also a bit of history from Mike Matthews included too. [video=youtube;0csEWuzbNRg] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Oh, and a little thread for you to check out, courtesy of the HC Effects forum. http://www.harmonycentral.com/forum/forum/guitar/acapella-29/31475044-favorite-recorded-examples-of-phase-shifters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted May 3, 2015 Members Share Posted May 3, 2015 I didn't even know that there was a "High Tech Guitar" forum until just now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender&EHX4ever Posted May 3, 2015 Members Share Posted May 3, 2015 After years of scouring eBay and Craigslist for vintage gear ( stuff I drooled after as a kid but couldn't afford until I was older), I've finally entered the realm of MIDI. Thanks to Phil's recommendation to check out Molten Voltage, the CV-Sync and CV-CTL have been my gateway. I love Bill's modular approach, and I love that his gear allows me to continue the MIDI to Analog hybrid relationship. I have a preference for breaking down the components of sound synthesis into dedicated devices... the old school way. I often get into conversations with a friend of mine who has spent the last several years moving toward working entirely in the box (his MAC) and using plug-ins to do what he used to do with shelves full of gear. As a professional technology educator, I really respect the economy and convenience of that. But it is as though my old creative and inspired brain is wired to be more inventive using physical components and connecting them with real cables. I guess it goes to that place in my brain where I used to play with LEGOs, Erector Sets, Lincoln Logs, and Radio Shack Electronic Kits . As a result, I tend to feel that the process of searching for new guitar territory comes from combining components that normally were not intended to be used together. Alchemy if you will. This is why I'm a little suspicious ( and probably wrongly so ) of devices like the BOSS SY-300 where everything but the kitchen sink seems packed up so neatly into one box. I do, however, see that it has an EXP jack for some analog potential. That's always a great start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 After years of scouring eBay and Craigslist for vintage gear ( stuff I drooled after as a kid but couldn't afford until I was older), I've finally entered the realm of MIDI. Thanks to Phil's recommendation to check out Molten Voltage, the CV-Sync and CV-CTL have been my gateway. I love Bill's modular approach, and I love that his gear allows me to continue the MIDI to Analog hybrid relationship. I have a preference for breaking down the components of sound synthesis into dedicated devices... the old school way. For some people, I think the preference is for convenience - being able to take just one box and get most of what you want / need has its advantages. But while it may be more complex and take more work, there are definitely advantages to the modular approach. I often get into conversations with a friend of mine who has spent the last several years moving toward working entirely in the box (his MAC) and using plug-ins to do what he used to do with shelves full of gear. As a professional technology educator, I really respect the economy and convenience of that. But it is as though my old creative and inspired brain is wired to be more inventive using physical components and connecting them with real cables. I guess it goes to that place in my brain where I used to play with LEGOs, Erector Sets, Lincoln Logs, and Radio Shack Electronic Kits . You could probably think of my approach as a module on top of modules approach; a sort of "all-in, all-welcome" approach to gear. I love analog effects and digital multieffects units, racks and pedals... racks and plugins, native and DSP, Macs and PCs, hardware and software. My response to the whole this vs that debate is usually "all of the above." Why limit yourself? As a result, I tend to feel that the process of searching for new guitar territory comes from combining components that normally were not intended to be used together. Alchemy if you will. This is why I'm a little suspicious ( and probably wrongly so ) of devices like the BOSS SY-300 where everything but the kitchen sink seems packed up so neatly into one box. I do, however, see that it has an EXP jack for some analog potential. That's always a great start. I love expression pedal jacks - I wish more pedals included them. Same with effects loops. I have to give EHX props in that regard - they usually include them on their pedals if they make any sense at all. As far as the Boss SY-300, I am definitely interested in checking it out. To me, what makes it interesting isn't so much the all in one box approach as it is the ability to do polyphonic pitch to MIDI with any standard pickups - no hex pickup required. The other biggie is the claim of "no latency." Specialized pickups, latency and the need to adjust your playing technique have probably been the biggest reasons why MIDI guitar never really took off and gained widespread acceptance among the majority of electric guitarists. Solve those issues and the rest can be built upon with a more modular approach. Nothing says I have to use their onboard effects - I can always physically patch the SY-300's outputs into something else and process it that way, combine it with the dry guitar sound or the dry sound processed independently, etc. I'm wondering if it routes playing information from the pitch to MIDI converter to the MIDI output in real time. If so, it might be a good controller for MIDI sequencing / recording and for use with other synths too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Temple of Light Posted May 7, 2015 Members Share Posted May 7, 2015 Zapp! goes the bolt of electricity through the frontal lobes into the neo-cortex and out the occipital... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members samal50 Posted June 25, 2015 Author Members Share Posted June 25, 2015 I called up Guitar Center and seems as if they do not have the BOSS SY-300 in stock yet. They told me there won't be any samples of it to try out. One thing I can do they said is to just buy it and return it if I don't like it. I would assume guitar synth effects aren't popular with guitarist or not as preferred by the rock crowd or not as big of a seller, historically. They said they would stock only 9 pieces of it to start with. I might as well buy it online and maybe get it cheaper if there's a sale on the 4th of July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Temple of Light Posted June 29, 2015 Members Share Posted June 29, 2015 "No longer ground breaking music is being exposed to listeners anymore. As if the industry has given up on challenging the listeners ears and minds." The mainstream for profit and established act side of things is certainly that, but the underground and alternative scene is living the dream,as long as we can get and keep a day job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I called up Guitar Center and seems as if they do not have the BOSS SY-300 in stock yet. As far as I know (based on what Roland / Boss told me), no one does yet. They told me there won't be any samples of it to try out. One thing I can do they said is to just buy it and return it if I don't like it. In my experience, that's a very common response from some GC salespeople. They do have a good return policy IMO, but it sux that they apparently won't be available for people to try out in the stores. Being able to walk in and try something out is one of the main advantages of a store over buying online. I would assume guitar synth effects aren't popular with guitarist or not as preferred by the rock crowd or not as big of a seller, historically. No, they never really have been... in part because it always took a dedicated controller, or modifications / additions to your guitar for the hex pickup that most earlier polyphonic guitar synths / MIDI guitars required. Since the SY-300 doesn't require those things and can be used with pretty much any electric guitar without modifications, it has the potential to be more popular than previous MIDI guitar products... IMO whether it will be or not depend in a large degree on how well it works, and whether or not someone famous does something very cool and highly successful with it. Imagine a breakout guitar synthesist in EDM scoring a big cross-genre hit while using it, etc. Something like that would tend to make a product very popular and increase the demand for it considerably. They said they would stock only 9 pieces of it to start with. I might as well buy it online and maybe get it cheaper if there's a sale on the 4th of July. Sounds like buying one online, or putting in an advance order might be the way to go if you want to get one with as minimal of a wait time as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members samal50 Posted July 2, 2015 Author Members Share Posted July 2, 2015 I think the SY-300 can be used with any instruments as well not just guitar? I'm sure anything is possible with it experimentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aliensporebomb Posted August 9, 2018 Members Share Posted August 9, 2018 Here's a demo of me with my Guitar with my Roland VG-99 into my Strymon Big Sky. I've already scored two films with this rig: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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