Members drummer84 Posted October 5, 2012 Members Share Posted October 5, 2012 I AM MICING MY DRUM KIT, NOT TOO MUCH EXP. ON THE AUDIO END OF IT THOUGH. I HAVE A PEAVY PV14 PASSIVE MIXER, PEAVY 115D PWRD SPEAKER,BEHRINGER B215D SPEAKER, 1200 WATT PWRD SUB, WHAT WOULD BE BEST WAY TO HOOK UP AND HOW!! WOULD LIKE TO USE 1 SPEAKER FOR A MONITOR. THANKS FOR ANY HELP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gonzobassman Posted October 5, 2012 Members Share Posted October 5, 2012 What kind of mics? How many mics? What kind of drum set-up (4 piece,6-piece,10-piece)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dedmeet Posted October 5, 2012 Members Share Posted October 5, 2012 OP, please turn off Caps Lock. All caps on the internet is the equivalent of shouting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bobby1Note Posted October 5, 2012 Members Share Posted October 5, 2012 OP, please turn off Caps Lock. All caps on the internet is the equivalent of shouting. FWIW, some folks find it easier to read caps (poor eyesight) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mkfs9 Posted October 5, 2012 Members Share Posted October 5, 2012 Hi a lot more info needed here.do you need a monitor to here yourself play the drums or for you here vocals maybe. A whole band through pa, how many inputs do you need ect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members scharris_99 Posted October 5, 2012 Members Share Posted October 5, 2012 In addition to above questions: Budget? Type of music? Size of room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drummer84 Posted October 5, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 5, 2012 my kit consist of 22 in. base, 4 toms,snare,hi-hat,cymbals. iam using cad 4 dynamic drum mics and 2 cad overhead condenser mics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members djiceman1575 Posted October 6, 2012 Members Share Posted October 6, 2012 Is there anything else that is going into this system? Is there just one of each speaker or do you have one pair of each? That board only has 10 total inputs, so if you're putting more than just the drums in, it would probably be best to only mic 4 things, the kick, snare, and one or two overheads. You may not need to mic your kit at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mutha Goose Posted October 6, 2012 Members Share Posted October 6, 2012 For the size rooms you can do with your system, you could easily get away with just mic'ing the kick and 2 overheads. In fact, that would be a very good place for you to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jlb Posted October 6, 2012 Members Share Posted October 6, 2012 For the size rooms you can do with your system, you could easily get away with just mic'ing the kick and 2 overheads. In fact, that would be a very good place for you to start. Listen to Mutha. Good advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twostone Posted October 6, 2012 Members Share Posted October 6, 2012 For the size rooms you can do with your system, you could easily get away with just mic'ing the kick and 2 overheads. In fact, that would be a very good place for you to start. ^This Just keep in mind your mixer only has 1 send for monitoring which you'll have to share the whole monitor mix with the band and most folks tend to like their own personal monitor and mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted October 6, 2012 Members Share Posted October 6, 2012 For the size rooms you can do with your system, you could easily get away with just mic'ing the kick and 2 overheads. In fact, that would be a very good place for you to start.true, although I always like to mic the snare a little to warm it up with a little reverb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted October 6, 2012 Members Share Posted October 6, 2012 true, although I always like to mic the snare a little to warm it up with a little reverb.If just using an overhead and kick mic I'll put a fair amount on 'verb on the OH and it usually gets plenty of snare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OneEng Posted October 6, 2012 Members Share Posted October 6, 2012 If just using an overhead and kick mic I'll put a fair amount on 'verb on the OH and it usually gets plenty of snare. My thoughts as well. If anything, I like to mute and deaden the snare to keep it from overwhelming the mix in smaller venues. Cymbals can have the same problem. I have noticed that some drummers think they need "their sound" with a small sharp, and way too loud snare much like a lead guitar player can only get "their sound" with a Marshal JCM900 on 10. I have had very successful nights with ONLY the kick mic'ed. If anything, the overheads might be nice if you could zero out the HF to avoid re-amplifying the cymbals (which are likely going to be too loud already), but still get some tom work out into the mains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shaster Posted October 6, 2012 Members Share Posted October 6, 2012 OP you haven't said how you will do a room with just one FOH speaker. Is this for a rehearsal space? I would agree that a kick and two, maybe even one overhead would be the way to go. I often just use one overhead and a kick to mic the drums. It often works out better than using a whole bunch of cheap mics. If you're doing this just for fun, and you want to use all six of your CAD mics, then you'll either need mic stands or clip ons for each mic (you'll need stands for the overheads). You could use the overheads to catch the cymbals, hi hats and maybe snare. Use one of the mics for the kick, maybe let the rack toms share a mic, and use a mic each for the floor toms - unless you don't really use one, or the snare isn't coming thruogh with just the overheads. I would let a floor tom go and cover the snare myself. As you can see to close mic the drums properly you might need more mics and more is NOT always better. For instance on many gigs I see: 2 overheads, 1 hi hat, 1 snare, 4 toms, and 1 kick - and most of those mics are expensive compared to what you have. But very often at reasonable volumes you can achieve good or better results by just letting the drum kit "mix itself" by using two overheads and a kick mic - which is right back where we started re:Mutha's post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Consume Posted October 7, 2012 Members Share Posted October 7, 2012 You can also use pair of "underheads"., where you use Small-diameter condensers placed lower than the cymbals, but still not close mic'ing the drums. My favorite is still a mic aimed down at the main kick knee, and then a mic inside the kick. Aiming it straight down at the knee essentially means you are aiming at the dead center of the kit. Think about it - it's right in the middle of the snare and toms. I just leave the lows and highs alone normally, and I will roll out mids around 750hz or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drummer84 Posted October 7, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 7, 2012 thanks guys great ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thamel Posted October 12, 2012 Members Share Posted October 12, 2012 Also regarding kick drum mics this is a good read: http://en.audiofanzine.com/microphone/editorial/articles/the-mighty-kick-drum-microphone-part-2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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