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Alright everyone, time to come back to HCFX

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riff ie Newbie

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Who else would like to see/read the likes of some old favs' w/ a new spew, like:

 

pocket lube

smegma smacker

I'll never B a 9

I got's mcgoo on my shoe

taco popper

proper taco

owen the sowen

baby bird prey

I <3 chum

Madagascar Musician,

 

perhaps if we all concentrate 8 seconds a time zone per', the collective conscience picks' up on it & viola, were all right back where we left off.

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Phil O'Keefe Rookie

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I'd love to see more of the HCFX veterans return and actively post again. Believe me, I understand the site frustrations, and while the switch to vB5 hasn't gone as well as I would have liked, we're dedicated to fixing it up (the base software in version 5 of VB has major issues that we're paying someone outside of their company to fix) and getting the site to work as well as possible. We fixed and improved the User Reviews, went back to vB (which everyone prefers), got all the old emoticons back (and many new ones) etc.

 

But remember - at the end of the day, that's all just infrastructure - as I've always said, the forums are what each and every one of us make them. It ultimately comes down to your participation and your posts. :)

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Someone started a related thread over in the EG forum. I wrote the post below for that, but it seems appropriate here:

 

I've pondered this long and, well, not especially hard, but a little.

 

The nature of the typical internet user has changed, and as much as anything, that's really altered the way forums are(n't) populated these days. I've been around HC since 2000 or 2001, had a change of username at some stage. In the earliest days most of the guys using the internet were technically able, computers were out of reach of many households and certainly of children and until the mid 2000s it was like a technically elite club of musicians, almost all smart (there were exceptions) interesting and interested. It was also a wild frontier, since the forum had been a hobby for a couple of guys in the beginning & grown out of all proportion to what they'd exected, so it was largely self-policing too (at least from a user's perception).

 

By the end of the 2000s the nature of the internet had changed. Computers had become commonplace, easy to use and quite boring, access through broadband was fast & cheap and the world & his wife (and offspring) were now online. No more forums as places of geeky exclusivity, and no more 1337 59e4k jokes.

 

There's another factor too - those of us who discovered this place through OLGA were 10 years older than when it had been new & fun, and despite all the comments about musicians not growing up, a lot of us had. By this time the forum was getting significant moderation, having been bought by GC, and many of the key players had either already gone or were going. Even though numbers at this point were high, possibly still peaking, HC as it was had already begun to die and the rest was the momentum left over from the pioneer era with a few stalwarts who carried on anyway. It wasn't the wild frontier anymore, but seemed to have become a place for 15YOs to come on and try trolling the regulars. Moderation became intrusive, people got frustrated, the forum began to be an ugly place. My heart went out to Fretsie at that time, because he was trying to to an impossible job, and do it with love & integrity.

 

Then came the screw-ups with the forum software. Really stupid stuff. People got paid money (we're talking about web designers here) to put together things that badly didn't work for ridiculous reasons, embarrassingly stupid reasons that 30sec of thought should have spotted (like nested comments getting narrower until they were too narrow to be useful). That and the moderation killed the momentum left in the corpse, the result being the quiet backwater that's HC Mk V or however many versions there have been.

 

So why isn't everyone coming back now the stoopid stuff is fixed?

 

The internet isn't the same place it was 15 years ago, and it's flooded with ordinary people accessing through mobile devices all the time. No-one cares that you're a geek on a computer, living on the wild frontier of technology. Forums are now old hat, and the mountain biking forum I used to be part of - where my name came from - once a major force in British cycling, is now a sleepy backwater too. There were a dozen spin-off forums from HC, most of which are a little less controlled, all specialising in particular areas, all similarly quiet. Facebook never really had an impact on HC, though a few of the old regulars still meet in a post-HC group there. But the internet has changed, defamation laws apply online, and it's now 21st century consumer suburbia. All those who want to live on the wild frontier will have gone to Disapsora, Redmatrix, Friendica, Libertree etc, where people talk about conspiracy theories and how oppressive western governments are.

 

All the rest...

 

Well many of the musicians will have got a life, probably making music somewhere. Or maybe found love, got married, settled down happy with a job, 2.5 kids and a bunch of happy memories & their rig in a cupboard. The loonies and sef-publicists have gone elsewhere to have their breakdowns or feed their egos.

 

And that leaves the few of us who remember how things were and come back to talk about stuff now & again. And admire Freeman's amazing guitar builds. smile.png

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Fender&EHX4ever Newbie

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Definitely the internetz has changed, and the HCFX veterans are older. No argument.

 

For me personally, my gear-lust has also changed significantly.

 

In 2008 I wanted to learn everything there was to know about vintage and rare effect pedals... mostly EHX, some MuTron, some Tel-Ray, Roland Space Echo, Digitech Space Station, etc. Since then EHX have pretty much reissued or surpassed all of there legacy and made it readily available for me. I'm no longer spending hours trying to locate it or talk about it on forums. Instead, I'm actually using it now in my home studio. That feels good, and makes me feel like there has been some purpose and progression throughout my journey here.

 

It would be fun to go back and see all of the gear trends that happened since about 2005.

 

There was the boutique boom - Klon, Fulltone, Lovetone, Z-Vex, Devi Ever

 

I remember a phase when the Line 6 M9 ruled the planet

 

I remember a brief Mooer craze

 

And then it seemed like Strymon sort of blew everyone's minds (and checking accounts) but also raised the bar as to what features digital effects should include.

 

Do you guys remember any other periods of strong hype over the years?

 

 

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riff ie Newbie

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OK an hour has past and nobody wants to talk about real vintage pedals' date=' this place use to be a place to talk about pedals and post clips...nobody gives a phuck anymore..........[/quote']

 

 

That's the, trick comin' across, spill way w/ out.

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