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I *think* supertron and powertron plus? With flatwounds it sounds waaaay different than my epi les paul sig with p90's, it's a lot closer to gretsch territory. It isn't the only guitar I would want, but it is a great sound to have available.

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Travis - the Casino is a beautiful guitar, but watch out for the China made models. I have sunk a lot of money and work into getting this thing to do right. Everyone loves the Korean models. Mine was a gift they bought for me from Guitar Center, and clearly a rip off. The Gibson p-90 (not the Chinese Epiphone p-90) sound best through the vintage Princeton Reverb.

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Travis - the Casino is a beautiful guitar' date=' but watch out for the China made models. I have sunk a lot of money and work into getting this thing to do right. Everyone loves the Korean models. Mine was a gift they bought for me from Guitar Center, and clearly a rip off. The Gibson p-90 (not the Chinese Epiphone p-90) sound best through the vintage Princeton Reverb.[/quote']

 

Hi Ben... welcome to the forum. :)

 

Did you check out my Casino Coupe review?

 

http://www.harmonycentral.com/expert-reviews/epiphone-casino-coupe

 

I have an '01 Korean-built (Peerless factory) Casino, and I absolutely love it. It's one of my most-often played instruments, and I was really curious as to how the current Chinese-built Casinos would compare to it. I go into that in the review. I was skeptical, but I have to say that overall I was impressed with the build quality of the Coupe. There was a issue with the way the polepieces were set, but that was the only quirky thing really. I didn't care for the neck's profile nearly as much, but that's really a personal preference thing, and I'm notoriously picky about neck sizes and shapes since I have pretty short fingers. For someone with average sized hands, the more D shaped SlimTaper profile will probably feel great, but I definitely prefer the slimmer shouldered C shaped SlimTaper profile of my personal Casino.

 

I do agree that a Casino into a Princeton is a great pair. I run mine into my Princetons ('71 Princeton Amp / '83 Princeton Reverb II) fairly often. :)

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Phil, I read your review of the Coupe and I really appreciate what you covered. I guess the only question I have is this--am I missing out on anything by going with a Coupe vs. a standard Casino? I like jangle and have always been into The Smiths and JAMC.

 

In fact, I used to have the MIK Casino that is in finboy's post (we know each other from Shortscale) and I would run it into an OD-3 pushing a Bass Big Muff and then into reverb for big washes of distortion. I sold it at the time because I had severe carpal and whenever I'd wrap my thumb around the top, my left hand would start experiencing excruciating pain (I've since had endoscopic release surgery and playing my Mascis JM is no problem). That, and I'm 5'5 and it always felt a little too big to be comfortable, which is also why I've never bought a Gretsch hollowbody even though I love the aesthetic. I've considered trying to get another Casino, but the form factor of the Coupe is very appealing.

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Well again, I think the main thing to be aware of is the difference in neck profile. They're about the same in terms of front to back thickness (~ .800"), and the neck width is similar, but the shoulders of the Coupe's neck are beefier. It's more of a D shaped profile, while my older MIK Casino has a more rounded C shaped profile, which I personally find more comfortable - but again, I have pretty darn short fingers.

 

Other differences? The smaller body is a joy to hold, and frankly, I think it looks cooler - especially on a shorter person - I'm 5' 8" tall. The neck extends further from the body with the Coupe, giving it better upper-fret access. The Coupe is a bit less expensive too, although I'm not sure it's that big a difference once you factor in the cost of a case, which came included with my MIK Casino, but is optional with the Coupe.

 

The only other thing to be aware of is that since they have different sized bodies, the trapeze tailpiece on the two models are a different length, and so is the length of string between the bridge and tailpiece anchor point, which means that third bridge / behind the bridge playing techniques will give different pitches than you'd get with a full-sized Casino, and a slightly different feel to the string tension. It's pretty minor though.

 

If they offered a Coupe with the same neck profile as my MIK, or if I had larger / normal sized hands, I'd be very tempted to get one. I really like the idea of the smaller ES-339 sized body. I don't know if it's a general trend with Epiphone to move to wider necks and more D shaped profiles on the MIC electrics, but I've read a few descriptions on different models that mentioned a D shaped neck profile. IIRC, Gibson has been moving to wider necks for the 2015 models, which is kind of a bummer for guys like me with shorter fingers - but I realize I'm in the minority, and a lot of people prefer a slightly wider neck. Hopefully they're still making some models with the C-shaped neck profile. I feel they're better for players with shorter fingers / smaller hands. The Squier J Mascis Jazzmaster has a fairly wide neck that is a bit thicker from front to back than the Casino Coupe's neck - or at least the one I reviewed did - and I agree that it was actually fairly comfortable to play - again, I think that may be due to the slimmer shoulder area and more C (even slightly V) shaped profile.

 

FWIW, the neck on the 2014 Gibson Les Paul Standard I reviewed last year was a thing of beauty (I kick myself for not buying it), and I adore the neck on my 2013 Gibson SG. Hopefully they'll continue offering C-shaped SlimTaper necks as well as the 50s rounded profile necks on different models to give people a choice.

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Thanks for the insight. Unfortunately no one stocks any Casino Coupes in my area, not even the Guitar Centers. So, I can't try one out to see how I'd get on with the neck.

 

It's either take a risk by buying one and having to possibly return it or...well, there doesn't seem to be anything else out there like it that's reasonably inexpensive and not ridiculously big. Maybe a Squier VM Thinline '72 Tele might fill the void of not having a semi or a hollowbody?

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I owned an original 73 Thinline years ago, and it's really a completely different beast than a Casino. IMO, if you're really sensitive to neck sizes, consider getting a regular Casino with the C shaped neck. If you are okay with regular necks but want a smaller body, take a chance on the Coupe. I don't think the Thinline's neck is going to be appreciably slimmer, nor do I think you'll find it a substitute for a true semi or hollowbody in terms of sound, although it is a very cool guitar in its own right. :)

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