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Buying a good midi 88-keys master keyboard


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I've played guitars for a long time, at a average-high level but... I'm starting to love keyboards (the keyss themselves, the synths, the playing style...), so... I finally dediced to start learning keyboards, and.. would like to arrive AT LEAST at the same level I was with guitar.

 

Considering my budget is limited at the moment, but would like a good instrument, with a good keyboard, something I will use for a long time (without having to change it newxt year because I understand I need something better, or because I need some harder stuff), and considering I've no problems with computers and electronic stuff, I decided to buy a midi master control keyboard.

 

I'm not an acoustic piano player, but, after several tests, I understood the keyboard for me should be fully-weighted hammeraction, and possibly with 88 keys... I don't want to deny any possibility for the future.

 

I intend to play especially prog rock, but also love classical and jazz stuff, so... at the moment I think the best thing is to buy a good and robust 88 hammer action keyboard with master keyboard capabilities, for using it with PC soft synths (VSTi, etc...) at the beginning, and eventually buy some sound module after (Motif rack, Triton Rack, etc...).

 

I want to use the keyboard in this first phase only at home, for studyng, but would also like to use it live in a second time, and... for now... and maybe also for a long time, it will be my only keyboard, s... I thing it should have at leas 4 layers capability.

 

One instrument I was consiering was M-Audio Keystation Pro88, that looks very interestng, and fits my budget (600-650 euro).

A lot of people told me to buy instead a Oberheim MC2000, that has a best keyboard, and better MIDi possibility (8 layers, many MIDI ports, etc...).

It's 850 euro about.

Is it really worth wayting, for buying MC2000, or is Keystation Pro 88 a good instrument too?

 

I'd like a real intrument, with good quality keyboard, robust keyboard and chassis, etc...

I don't care about the stuff like "I could need to sell it in a second time, and MC2000 will make me get some money in the used market", etc...

 

Is really MC2000 keyboard (I actually mean the keys) better that Keystation Pro 88 ones?

I'd like something at the level of the ones provided but high level intruments as Kurzveil, Yamaha, Korg, etc...

 

Thanx

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I specified my business is a little limited.

 

For me M-Audio Keystation Pro 88 has a perfect price, while should do some sacrifices for buying a Oberheim MC2000.

 

LMK keyboards are really out of my business, and don't have anyway all the MIDI fuctions I'd need, and Keystation and MC2000 instead have.

 

Anyway, I don't need a keyboard that behaves exactly as an acoustic piano (I'm not a piano player), but that's very close to it, the same way Kurzwell 2600 keyboard, etc.. can be.

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Manisedap, I agree with you on the RD-700 action. I grew up playing acoustic piano. The RD is the closest thing to a real grand action that I have played. I have not played a Kawai M9500 but I hear it is quite good. It is a great controller too. I like the Yamaha p-series piano sounds better. The Motif8 and S90 are close to the RD action although not quite as heavily weighted.

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I traded my RD700 for a MotifES6 and Yamaha P-90 for the lighter weight of P90 and axiously await the Motif ES rack.

I buy all my equipment wholesale through a dealer I work part time for. I would like to have another 700 for my studio because it plays so great. It is not just the weight with me but the size and spacing of the keys which seem to vary slightly from every other weighted keyboard I have played.

The new FantomX piano sounds great on Roland's website but I haven't played one yet.

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i wouldn't go with an 88 weighted for softsynths.

 

if you want to play a 'piano' then get an 88 weighted.

 

if you wan to play synths get a semi weighted keybed. semiweighted allows for a better feel when soloing on synths, IMHO.

 

decide what you want to do most; play piano or, play synths.

 

also, semiweighted actions are less expensive than a fully weighted keybed. try the semi first and then, if you are still longing for a piano feel, get a fully weighted.

 

good luck.

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Re the Keystation 88, I don't think the action is that bad. It's not the greatest, but it's certainly not the worst. On an unrelated note, M-audio's tech support guy blew up and called someone an asshole over at the Musicplayer forum. The guy was ribbing the product, and got called an asshole! Hilarious.

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Originally posted by baldo

chris - do you have a link to the thread?

 

 

Yep. Check here for the drama:

 

http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=001755;p=1

 

the argument began here, near the bottom of pg 4:

 

http://www.musicplayer.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=18;t=009922;p=4

 

The m-audio guy is gus lozada. the guy fighting with him is jeebus.

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Originally posted by Chris100

Re the Keystation 88, I don't think the action is that bad. It's not the greatest, but it's certainly not the worst. On an unrelated note, M-audio's tech support guy blew up and called someone an asshole over at the Musicplayer forum. The guy was ribbing the product, and got called an asshole! Hilarious.

 

 

I'll direct you to the Keystation 88 thread, where, having tried one this weekend at the music store, I assert that, in fact, it *is* the worst. The worst I have ever played, anyway.

 

I hope that M-Audio guy finds his way over here.

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quote: from Jeebus:

"

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Originally posted by Gus Lozada:

I Actually I sent a link to this thread to my design team at the company, so we're for sure reading the posts.

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I wouldn't have done that if I were you. I'd be too embarassed to let them see the disgusting manner in which you treat their potential customers.

 

Are you also going to send them a link to the thread over in Sweat in which you called me an asshole and a mother{censored}er? Here. I'll do it for you.

"

 

 

Harsh words from both sides, lol! Reminiscent of the recent outburst from the Kurzweil guy.

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Originally posted by baldo

i wouldn't go with an 88 weighted for softsynths.


if you want to play a 'piano' then get an 88 weighted.


if you wan to play synths get a semi weighted keybed. semiweighted allows for a better feel when soloing on synths, IMHO.


decide what you want to do most; play piano or, play synths.

 

 

Well, as I said, I can now buy only OJNE keyboard, and this will be for a long time, and I'm going to play various stuff, so I'd like one versatile keyboard, both for classic synths stuff and for piano stuff (but I specified I'm not a piano player)..

 

 

also, semiweighted actions are less expensive than a fully weighted keybed. try the semi first and then, if you are still longing for a piano feel, get a fully weighted.

 

 

I'd like to buy a keyboard I can use for a long time, for playing various kind of music... without the need of changing the instrument to early.

 

I could only try fully weighet and no weighted keyboards in the shops of my area or from friends, and definitely prefear weighter keyboards, and... can't try a semiweightet keyboard, but, condiering I don't want to cahange it soon, I'd directly go to a weighted one.

 

 

So people, beyound Keyastation Pro, told me about Oberheim MC2000 and Studiologic SL990.

How are these, also compared to Keystation Pro 88?

 

consider I need not to PERFECTLY emulate a true acoustic piano, but need a versatile, good keyboard, for using both live and at home.

 

good luck.

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Sorry for resurrecting an old thread here but i'm looking for the same thing as the original poster here... I have an Edirol PCR-800 but i miss the extra octaves and hammer action.

 

I've found classifieds for a Yamaha CP33 and a S90 (having integrated piano sounds might be a plus for home-practice) that i can try out but how are they as midi-controllers?

 

Also found a Yamaha KX8 and MO8, these i'm not able to tryout before buying. Any advice? Primarily i'll use it for MIDI with my band.

 

I'm pretty new to keyboarding and haven't really tried anything but my Edirol and my stepdads upright piano.

My local music store had an CP-300 that i really liked the feel of.

And, i'm not limited to yamaha by any means, it just seems that they're flooding the second hand market at the moment :)

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