Members noizyb Posted June 25, 2004 Members Share Posted June 25, 2004 I'm getting ready to pick up an ES-8 but was curious, is the piano sound not on par with the P90, or basically the same ? Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangefunk Posted June 25, 2004 Members Share Posted June 25, 2004 I believe the ES8 has the same piano as the S90 (the Yamaha S700 grand piano )and not the p90 (top of the line CFSIII grand piano)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gobojacobs Posted June 25, 2004 Members Share Posted June 25, 2004 Actually, I think it's got the CFSIII on board, but with the S700 on sample cds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangefunk Posted June 25, 2004 Members Share Posted June 25, 2004 Yeah perhaps your right, I guess the difference is the lack of resonance samples... the p90 has them the ES doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lvercaut Posted June 25, 2004 Members Share Posted June 25, 2004 It's the P-120/P-250 grandpiano 1 sample without the extra's ( string resonance , ...). But when i hear the Motif ES, i like the piano as much as my P-250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 88keyplayer Posted June 25, 2004 Members Share Posted June 25, 2004 Originally posted by lvercaut It's the P-120/P-250 grandpiano 1 sample without the extra's ( string resonance , ...). But when i hear the Motif ES, i like the piano as much as my P-250. Actually the P90,120,250 and the MotifES series piano are from the same sampling session. The Motif, being a synth and not a dedicated piano doesn't have the ability to play back the sample the same as the P series and lacks the string resonance and key off samples. They have different playback technology but come from the same sample. The P250 has a better playback engine than the P90/120. I have heard people say they liked the Natural Grand better than the Power Grand in the Motif. They are exactly alike with different effects and eq. It is really splitting hairs to bring all this up but thought I would mention it for the record. Yamaha can give a more detailed explanation of my overview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rintincop Posted June 25, 2004 Members Share Posted June 25, 2004 I have a P250, P120 and P90 and they clearly rank in that order.The P250 piano has much greater clarity and behaves much more musicaly than the little P90 piano. The P120 falls in between.I'm waiting for the day that Yamaha upgrades the line and makes a portable P series piano with a piano as great a clarity as the P250 has. I do not consider the P250 portable for gigs, it's 73 pounds and stays at home. The P120 goes to my gigs and I end up using the EP2 Rhodes mostly because the acoustic piano is not so satisfying, it's harsh and phrases sort of staccato. The P90 hardly gets touched, it has a dull quality to its sound and stays mostly in the closet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangefunk Posted June 25, 2004 Members Share Posted June 25, 2004 Is it possible to play softly on the P250? I can't seem to do this on the P120... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members C. Martin Posted June 25, 2004 Members Share Posted June 25, 2004 The Motif ES has the same piano as the p120 "Grand Piano 1", but the Motif ES lacks the nuances the p120's piano sound engine delivers(String Resonance, Key off, etc). But still, the Motif ES Grand Piano is superb. Regards,p120dUdE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TxinmySoul Posted June 26, 2004 Members Share Posted June 26, 2004 What? No put-down of the P250? Not feeling well today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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