Members XXX Posted June 5, 2005 Members Posted June 5, 2005 Originally posted by GuitarPorter now check this one out , I dont even know what it is but it sounds way cool , I think John McLaughin used it E 10 --- 12B 10--- 12 G 9 ---- 13D 9 ---12 A 11 -- 12E 10 --- 12 .If someone can tell me the name of it thanks .Heres a fast and dirty clip of me riffing with it . whatscale?
Members edeltorus Posted June 5, 2005 Members Posted June 5, 2005 Sounds good. It's a pentatonic: 1 2 #4 5 6 It's part of the lydian scale (drop the 3rd and 7th). You find the same notes in harmonic minor s 4th mode (again drop the 3rd and 7th).
Members misery Posted June 5, 2005 Members Posted June 5, 2005 To me it sounded like you played it as if there was an E7 in the root and not a D major chord, and therefore I guess it would be a modified minor pentatonic scale with a mixolydian twist. The formula for the minor pentatonic scale is:1 b3 4 5 b7 And minor scale:1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7 The formula for the scale you posted is:1 3 4 5 b7 And mixolydian:1 2 3 4 5 6 b7 ...which fits over a dominant 7th chord, since 7-chords have the formula: 1 3 5 b7
Members XXX Posted June 5, 2005 Author Members Posted June 5, 2005 Originally posted by misery To me it sounded like you played it as if there was an E7 in the root and not a D major chord, and therefore I guess it would be a modified minor pentatonic scale with a mixolydian twist.The formula for the minor pentatonic scale is:1 b3 4 5 b7And minor scale:1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7The formula for the scale you posted is:1 3 4 5 b7And mixolydian:1 2 3 4 5 6 b7...which fits over a dominant 7th chord, since 7-chords have the formula:1 3 5 b7 I think edeltorus has it right with the 1 2 #4 5 6 , but so theres no real name for it its just a type of pentatonic?
Members edeltorus Posted June 6, 2005 Members Posted June 6, 2005 Originally posted by GuitarPorter I think edeltorus has it right with the 1 2 #4 5 6 , but so theres no real name for it its just a type of pentatonic? I think I've got it.. If you rewrite it from the second note you'll get: 1 3 4 5 b7. So it's a 7/sus4 arpeggio. If I'm not mistaken that's equal to a indian pentatonic. I could be wrong though. Maybe someone else has a good scale dictionary? Anyways, I play that voicing quite a lot over dom7 chords, it has a uplifting and happy vibe. Guess your scale is either a mode of it, or you have played it over an E (as misery pointed out) and wrote it down from the wrong note.
Members edeltorus Posted June 6, 2005 Members Posted June 6, 2005 Ha! I knew it.. I once started a thread about this stuff: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=466907
Members UFOScorpion Posted June 6, 2005 Members Posted June 6, 2005 If I read the notes right, it's called Dominant Pentatonic (fairly certain of the name - saw it on Shred is Not Dead tape, and also a tape by Racer X's other guitarist - not Gilbert). In E, it is E-G#-A-B-D-EThere is a Green Day riff that uses the first few nots of that, like E-G#-A-G#, E-G#-A-B Also, the Butthole Surfers great song Pepper (They're doing it in Dallas like an avalanche coming down a mountain), uses that scale for it's psychedilic lead in G = G-B-C-D-F-GLike this B bend to C release to B - G, G-B-C-D-F-G, then come back down. I think sometimes they start like this G/G# (sort of a Phrygian sound) - so you have G bend to G# release to G-F-D-C-B-G If you play around with those notes and have heard the song, you'll see. As was mentioned in the other post, there are lots of pentatonics. I use one I thought I made up and called Dorian Pentatonic, but it has another name I forget.In A, A-B-C-E-F#-A Obviously 5 notes from Dorian. Makes a nice change to finish a Blues Scale or minor pent riff. Also, great for moving across the fretboard in different positions.
Members Cackalacky Posted June 6, 2005 Members Posted June 6, 2005 I'll buy Dominant Pentatonic, it's also just like a E7 arpeggio started on the b7 with an added 4th.
Members XXX Posted June 7, 2005 Author Members Posted June 7, 2005 thanks , most of what you guys are saying is over my head but thanks for the posts .
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