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Originally posted by GuitarPorter


now check this one out , I dont even know what it is but it sounds way cool , I think John McLaughin used it

E 10 --- 12

B 10--- 12

G 9 ---- 13

D 9 ---12

A 11 -- 12

E 10 --- 12 .


If someone can tell me the name of it thanks .


Heres a fast and dirty clip of me riffing with it .




 

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Sounds good. It's a pentatonic:

 

1 2 #4 5 6

 

It's part of the lydian scale (drop the 3rd and 7th).

 

You find the same notes in harmonic minor s 4th mode (again drop the 3rd and 7th).

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To me it sounded like you played it as if there was an E7 in the root and not a D major chord, and therefore I guess it would be a modified minor pentatonic scale with a mixolydian twist.

 

The formula for the minor pentatonic scale is:

1 b3 4 5 b7

 

And minor scale:

1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7

 

 

The formula for the scale you posted is:

1 3 4 5 b7

 

And mixolydian:

1 2 3 4 5 6 b7

 

...which fits over a dominant 7th chord, since 7-chords have the formula:

 

1 3 5 b7

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Originally posted by misery

To me it sounded like you played it as if there was an E7 in the root and not a D major chord, and therefore I guess it would be a modified minor pentatonic scale with a mixolydian twist.


The formula for the minor pentatonic scale is:

1 b3 4 5 b7


And minor scale:

1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7



The formula for the scale you posted is:

1 3 4 5 b7


And mixolydian:

1 2 3 4 5 6 b7


...which fits over a dominant 7th chord, since 7-chords have the formula:


1 3 5 b7

I think edeltorus has it right with the

1 2 #4 5 6 , but so theres no real name for it its just a type of pentatonic?

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Originally posted by GuitarPorter

I think edeltorus has it right with the

1 2 #4 5 6 , but so theres no real name for it its just a type of pentatonic?

 

 

I think I've got it..

 

If you rewrite it from the second note you'll get: 1 3 4 5 b7.

 

So it's a 7/sus4 arpeggio. If I'm not mistaken that's equal to a indian pentatonic. I could be wrong though. Maybe someone else has a good scale dictionary?

 

Anyways, I play that voicing quite a lot over dom7 chords, it has a uplifting and happy vibe. Guess your scale is either a mode of it, or you have played it over an E (as misery pointed out) and wrote it down from the wrong note.

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If I read the notes right, it's called Dominant Pentatonic (fairly certain of the name - saw it on Shred is Not Dead tape, and also a tape by Racer X's other guitarist - not Gilbert)

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In E, it is E-G#-A-B-D-E

There is a Green Day riff that uses the first few nots of that, like

E-G#-A-G#, E-G#-A-B

 

Also, the Butthole Surfers great song Pepper (They're doing it in Dallas like an avalanche coming down a mountain), uses that scale for it's psychedilic lead in G = G-B-C-D-F-G

Like this B bend to C release to B - G, G-B-C-D-F-G, then come back down. I think sometimes they start like this G/G# (sort of a Phrygian sound) - so you have G bend to G# release to G-F-D-C-B-G

 

If you play around with those notes and have heard the song, you'll see.

 

As was mentioned in the other post, there are lots of pentatonics. I use one I thought I made up and called Dorian Pentatonic, but it has another name I forget.

In A, A-B-C-E-F#-A Obviously 5 notes from Dorian. Makes a nice change to finish a Blues Scale or minor pent riff. Also, great for moving across the fretboard in different positions.

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thanks , most of what you guys are saying is over my head but

thanks for the posts .

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