Members buddastrat Posted November 1, 2005 Members Posted November 1, 2005 to record lessons nowadays? I can't find a decent tape recorder for years. They used to have nice built in mic with compressors right into the boom box. But tapes are such a thing of the past. Many students don't even have cassette players. I'm thinking of going to digital. This seems perfect for teaching, practicing, but it's so high $. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=home/search/detail/base_pid/241085/
Members buddastrat Posted November 1, 2005 Author Members Posted November 1, 2005 And there's also this. But it doesn't record digital. It does have a built in amp though and could probably record direct to cassette tape. Looks like a very cool boom box. I wonder how the amp sounds. I wonder how many tubes are in it:Dhttp://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=rec/search/detail/base_pid/241426/
Members MrSteed Posted November 1, 2005 Members Posted November 1, 2005 I've got a variety of recording devices. I think you can get cheaper than the Roland pretty easily. Plus have something taht you can use in a variety of ways for lessons. Korg D4. $350. 4 track recorder with tuner, drums, metronome, effects. Records to Compact flash. ABout the size of a VHS tape. USB Digitech GNX4. $499. 8 track recorder, tuner, drums, metronome, effects, expression pedal. Compact flash. A largish pedal board. USB. Zoom MRS802B. $599. 8 track. tuner. drums. metronome. effects. 40G Hard disk. Haven't got this yet but I'm expecting it in any day now. Seems real nice, but I didn't like the fact that you need to buy a separate addon so that it would do USB. Oh, this one also has a CD burner. The Digitech is the swiss army knife of guitar accessories. I really like it. The Korg is very handy for portability. The USB setup on the Digitech is rather Byzantine. I can't really seem to get it to interface correctly with the supplied Cakewalk software. That's why I got the Zoom. That way I can play loops via the digitech and record onto the Zoom. I also wanted to have the Zoom for plugging into another pdealboard I have.
Members BORR4 Posted November 1, 2005 Members Posted November 1, 2005 I've been using a little hand held Sony digital recorder (can't think of the model number). It was about $100 @ Staples. The sound quality of the recording is OK (far from terrible) - especially for me since I just use it as a sort of play back to review the lessons. I think it can record around an hour (a little more) at a time. I load the lessons in to my PC and burn them on a CD. Cheap, simple, effective - I'm very happy with it. Highly recommended for what you are looking to do.
Members buddastrat Posted November 1, 2005 Author Members Posted November 1, 2005 That seems like too much "home work". I would like to keep that work at work. .Mrsteed, do any of those multi tracks have built in mics? That's important to me. But I do have an SM57. A buddy had a recent Boss model with the cd burner in there. That thing seems to complicated. I only have a half an hour. I need to be able to record and burn very quick. The old days of casette tape were so easy.
Members MrSteed Posted November 1, 2005 Members Posted November 1, 2005 Hm, The Korg D4 has a builtin mic, but I *think* it's only fortuner.Not sure about the Zoom. I don't think it does. BUT, I orderedmine from Music123 and they include a free mic with it.
Members buddastrat Posted November 1, 2005 Author Members Posted November 1, 2005 I like the multi track idea. Would come in handy for adding parts and writing. What I like about the Roldand thing is it has speakers and has pitch/tempo change. Great for transcribing stuff for students.
Members UnderTheGroove Posted November 1, 2005 Members Posted November 1, 2005 I leave it up to the students. Some use digital handhelds, and others use old fashioned cassette or mini-cassette. Most don't record at all...
Members Santuzzo Posted November 2, 2005 Members Posted November 2, 2005 How about MiniDisc ???? I used a Sony for recording lessons as well as rehearsals .... It doesn't have a microphone built in, so I got a special microphone for the mini disc recorder, and the sound is surprisingly good, even for recording rehearsals ! Unfortunately the mini disc thing seems to disappear from the market, iPods might be more handy as a portable music-player , but for recording lessons or rehearsals a mini disc recorder is just perfect, and smaller than a multi track (cheaper as well, BTW).
Members randallnm Posted November 2, 2005 Members Posted November 2, 2005 i got a digital recorder from radioshack for about $30.....it holds 8 hours worth of quite reasonable quality audio. Then I just plug it into my computer and record it, bounce it into itunes. If not that, just a decent microcassette recorder will work.
Members buddastrat Posted November 2, 2005 Author Members Posted November 2, 2005 I'll check that Radio Shack out! Cheap.. I like that. Thanx!
Members MrSteed Posted November 2, 2005 Members Posted November 2, 2005 Just got my Zoom in yesterday.Probably not what you're looking for. It's a big honkin thing!But it's got a GREAT array of features for the money. Superb8 track features and track edit capabilities, it can read in CDsand you can make phrase loops off of them, writes CDs, extensive drum track programming, effects... nice little homestudio system! Plus it came with a free mike ($150 value theyclaim). That didn't hurt either
Members MorePaul Posted November 2, 2005 Members Posted November 2, 2005 Depends on your student base really If the baseis sort of "generalist" - honeslty, it's probably just going to be a problem as digital file formats vary (not all students will have compat players) and the physcial tokens (mem card, etc) can be expensive CD-R is an option but the convenience of burn times is still a little inconvenient (though those dedicated thing might have gotten a lot better abt that kind of stuff) and not all home players will read dye-sub disks (ugh, it's a crappy problem kinda like when you couldn't count on a turntable as part of the equipment) If you are teaching more a stable of dedicated students or through a university program -- just spec whatever inexpensive format you'd like as part of the required equipment
Members buddastrat Posted November 2, 2005 Author Members Posted November 2, 2005 That was a very thought out answer. Thanx. And I say that's why cassettes were so friggin' easy. Not as crystal clear but so quick and gets the job done and everybody had a player. And towards the end, where they were putting those condensor mics on boom boxes, the quality was getting very good. I remember several band rehearsals with my little Panasonic box that recorded incredibly well. People asked us where we recorded it! The whole band was clear right from that little boom box. For my needs, I may bite the bullet and buy that Roland thing. Looks like the ultimate teaching tool and it's a tax write off.
Members gennation Posted November 3, 2005 Members Posted November 3, 2005 I teach a class of 2 guitarists and a mandolinist. The mandolin person records every lesson with little mp3 recorder. Works great.
Members Knottyhed Posted November 4, 2005 Members Posted November 4, 2005 Originally posted by MorePaul Depends on your student base reallyIf the baseis sort of "generalist" - honeslty, it's probably just going to be a problem as digital file formats vary (not all students will have compat players) and the physcial tokens (mem card, etc) can be expensiveCD-R is an option but the convenience of burn times is still a little inconvenient (though those dedicated thing might have gotten a lot better abt that kind of stuff) and not all home players will read dye-sub disks(ugh, it's a crappy problem kinda like when you couldn't count on a turntable as part of the equipment)If you are teaching more a stable of dedicated students or through a university program -- just spec whatever inexpensive format you'd like as part of the required equipment Well if he's got a PC he can either get or (probably already has - Media Player anyone?) a program that can convert digital format (e.g. mp3) and burn an audio CD. If you teach from your home you could even record directly on to the PC using a mic/sound card/appropriate software.
Members MorePaul Posted November 4, 2005 Members Posted November 4, 2005 Originally posted by Knottyhed Well if he's got a PC he can either get or (probably already has - Media Player anyone?) a program that can convert digital format (e.g. mp3) and burn an audio CD.If you teach from your home you could even record directly on to the PC using a mic/sound card/appropriate software. yuppers, but the burn time and UI nav during a lesson always seems problematic compared to popping the tape and not all home players will read dye-sub disks (This is prob becoming less so as the tech marches on) the PC solution doesn't have to be restricted to home with laptop travel, but like so much that is gen purpose, workingwith the PC during a lesson gets a bit much
Members buddastrat Posted November 5, 2005 Author Members Posted November 5, 2005 http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MicroTrack2496-main.html This is pretty cool looking too. I really want portable, don't want to be strapped to a PC. Band recordings, to clips and student performances is what I want.
Members MorePaul Posted November 8, 2005 Members Posted November 8, 2005 hmm, what about the hand-off to the student? (CF ain;t that expensive, but it's not like slinging them a comp cass when they forget and then there's the "I don't hanve a reader" deal and all that)
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