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I've been working on my sweep picking a lot lately, but it won't sound quite right from open strings ringing.

 

Lets say I'm sweep picking:

 

e:-------5

B:----6----6

G: 7----------7

 

The first half sounds great because i can mute the lower strings with my right hand as i move it down. But on the way back up when I pick my fingers off the strings they ring open too loud (even when playing clean), obscuring the notes I'm trying to play.

 

I know in this instance I could leave my left fingers on the strings to mute them, but in something where I wanted pulls/hammers in the phrase, I couldn't do this.

 

Is there something I can do to correct this?

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work on muting the notes with your palm (right hand) on the way down also. its weird at first, but you get used to it and it makes your sweeps sound a lot cleaner :)

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Originally posted by International

I've been working on my sweep picking a lot lately, but it won't sound quite right from open strings ringing.


Lets say I'm sweep picking:


e:-------5

B:----6----6

G: 7----------7


The first half sounds great because i can mute the lower strings with my right hand as i move it down. But on the way back up when I pick my fingers off the strings they ring open too loud (even when playing clean), obscuring the notes I'm trying to play.


I know in this instance I could leave my left fingers on the strings to mute them, but in something where I wanted pulls/hammers in the phrase, I couldn't do this.


Is there something I can do to correct this?

 

 

You already answered your question; you'll need to let one or more left hand fingers remain in contact with the strings. Or, at the very least, be very careful not to do any unintentional pull-ofs when lifting your fingers frrom those notes. Plus, as soc_monki said, palm muting works wonders.

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Originally posted by Auggie Doggie



You already answered your question; you'll need to let one or more left hand fingers remain in contact with the strings. Or, at the very least, be very careful not to do any unintentional pull-ofs when lifting your fingers frrom those notes. Plus, as soc_monki said, palm muting works wonders.



well, i learned it from you, Auggie ;) LOL

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I dont get your delimma. I dont do anything special at all to deaden the strings. here is a clip of a rather slow sweep sequence and you can see that I dont do anything to mute the strings I rake across, and that it doesnt get any string noice...right? Sounds like you found a solution to your problem anyway. Cheers

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Originally posted by typedeaF

I dont get your delimma. I dont do anything special at all to deaden the strings.
=http://www.mp3lizard.com/download.cfm?id=18879]here
is a clip of a rather slow sweep sequence and you can see that I dont do anything to mute the strings I rake across, and that it doesnt get any string noice...right? Sounds like you found a solution to your problem anyway. Cheers



i agree with you, sometimes. when you do sweeps on strings that arent prone to having harmonics (5, 7, 12, 17, 19th frets) you dont have to do much. on a sweep such as the one he posted, i can sweep up and down without muting all the strings (ascending, i mute the strings with my palm AFTER ive played them, and descending i can mute them with my left hand fingers and keep the harmonics from ringing).

however, its good to practice muting on that and all other forms of sweeps so you are comfortable with the technique. when doing a sweep form such as an Em in the 12th position (where you barre the G, B, and E strings with your index finger) its almost essential to palm mute the notes, at least as soon as you release your finger, to keep the harmonics from ringing out, especially with lots of gain!

so there are different ways to approach sweeping. sometimes ill mute the whole thing, other times ill only mute after i release my left hand...i guess it just depends on how im feeling at the time :)

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Originally posted by soc_monki



i agree with you, sometimes. when you do sweeps on strings that arent prone to having harmonics (5, 7, 12, 17, 19th frets) you dont have to do much. on a sweep such as the one he posted, i can sweep up and down without muting all the strings (ascending, i mute the strings with my palm AFTER ive played them, and descending i can mute them with my left hand fingers and keep the harmonics from ringing).


however, its good to practice muting on that and all other forms of sweeps so you are comfortable with the technique. when doing a sweep form such as an Em in the 12th position (where you barre the G, B, and E strings with your index finger) its almost essential to palm mute the notes, at least as soon as you release your finger, to keep the harmonics from ringing out, especially with lots of gain!


so there are different ways to approach sweeping. sometimes ill mute the whole thing, other times ill only mute after i release my left hand...i guess it just depends on how im feeling at the time
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Oh, I got ya. On those barred shape arpeggios. Right. Yeah I avoid those kind because it is very hard to get to sound clean. When barring say G B E across the 12th fret (just and example) I usually barre across to the G, before the B note I kinda bananna curl and roll my finger back hard so that it completely leaves the G string, and from B to E i roll my finger even more so that it deadens the B. On the way back down I do the exact opposite with the E being completely not touched after I roll off, and the B being deadened. I hate to hear people who dont deaden the notes at all and it just sounds like a freaking chord. Ugh. Cheers.

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Originally posted by typedeaF



Oh, I got ya. On those barred shape arpeggios. Right. Yeah I avoid those kind because it is very hard to get to sound clean. When barring say G B E across the 12th fret (just and example) I usually barre across to the G, before the B note I kinda bananna curl and roll my finger back hard so that it completely leaves the G string, and from B to E i roll my finger even more so that it deadens the B. On the way back down I do the exact opposite with the E being completely not touched after I roll off, and the B being deadened. I hate to hear people who dont deaden the notes at all and it just sounds like a freaking chord. Ugh. Cheers.



glad were on the same page :thu:

and i agree...if youre playing an arpeggiated chord, yea, let the notes ring out...but when you do sweeps, mute those notes!!!!

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