Members e021708 Posted July 22, 2007 Members Posted July 22, 2007 any tips for playing slide in standard tuning? Just been goofing around since i seen a guy pull it off live. looks like he was mostly just played the top strings. i sounded ok even if not totally correct. i may help to have 2 guitars in the group.
Members gennation Posted July 22, 2007 Members Posted July 22, 2007 Like your open strings, find "parallels" in your scales. For instance, in G Blues you have the open D, G, and B strings in parallel physically. But in the Blues scale you also have these same three strings in parallel at the 3 fret, and the 5th fret...this is COMMON Billy Gibbons and George Thoroughgood territory... E-------------------B---0---3--5--3--0--G---0---3--5--3--0--D---0---3--5--3--0--A--------------------E-------------------- Try it like... G7E--------------------------B---0---3--0--5--0--3--0--G---0---3--0--5--0--3--0--D---0---3--0--5--0--3--0--A--------------------------E-------------------------- Playing the Blues against an E-shape barre chord you have these parallels...I'll use an G7 chord as an example... G7E--3--5--3-------B--3--5--3-------G-----------5--3--D-----------------A-----------5--3--E------------------ Here's the parallels of an G7 played in an A-shape barre chord at the 10th fret... G7E--------------10----12----10--B---------12------------------G---10---------10----12----10--D---------12-------------------A---10------------------------E----------------------------- Now mix ALL those to together across the fretboard! There's many other parallels within the Blues scale that aren't listed here. So, draw that G Blaues scale on a blank fretboard and you'll "SEE" all the other parallels you can choose from.
Members e021708 Posted July 22, 2007 Author Members Posted July 22, 2007 Like your open strings, find "parallels" in your scales. For instance, in G Blues you have the open D, G, and B strings in parallel physically. But in the Blues scale you also have these same three strings in parallel at the 3 fret, and the 5th fret...this is COMMON Billy Gibbons and George Thoroughgood territory... E------------------- B---0---3--5--3--0-- G---0---3--5--3--0-- D---0---3--5--3--0-- A-------------------- E-------------------- Try it like... G7 E-------------------------- B---0---3--0--5--0--3--0-- G---0---3--0--5--0--3--0-- D---0---3--0--5--0--3--0-- A-------------------------- E-------------------------- Playing the Blues against an E-shape barre chord you have these parallels...I'll use an G7 chord as an example... G7 E--3--5--3------- B--3--5--3------- G-----------5--3-- D----------------- A-----------5--3-- E------------------ Here's the parallels of an G7 played in an A-shape barre chord at the 10th fret... G7 E--------------10----12----10-- B---------12------------------ G---10---------10----12----10-- D---------12------------------- A---10------------------------ E----------------------------- Now mix ALL those to together across the fretboard! There's many other parallels within the Blues scale that aren't listed here. So, draw that G Blaues scale on a blank fretboard and you'll "SEE" all the other parallels you can choose from. thanks, very logical. i've been experimenting with "move it on over" doing some of this. you showed me some more on things to try. one challenging thing im trying is just picking the open g and d strings while i reach to put the slide on my little finger in the middle of the song. then doing some pentatonic blues finger picking in the third position before going to the slide after the turn around. slide is a blast.....
Members FFStratophile Posted July 22, 2007 Members Posted July 22, 2007 Well, do you have any other useful influence for playing slide in standard? I find it kind of pointless trying new technique without some proper influence. As for just playing slide, I advise you not to think about scales and patterns, but just to try to sounds the notes you want, much easier to do this with a slide then with just the fingers, kind of closer to speaking then normal guitar playing
Members Terje Posted July 28, 2007 Members Posted July 28, 2007 Blues slide playing in standard tuning... hm, tricky thing... a lot of stuff you won't be able to do. On the other hand, you're in a well known tuning and if you wear your slide on your pinky you have three fingers to fret chords with. I'd say you could comp using a lot of Freddie Green chords, especially for blues becasue his dominant 7th voicings are real easy even without the pinky "available". However, there is a certain sound you're gonna be after when playing blues with a slide on a guitar (or you could play something else, right?). Some of the chordal sounds, some of the alternate bass moves you won't be able to do but there's something really essential that you can still do. There's that open chord, that triad with the 5th in the bass, that is within the standard tuning. On the open strings it's D G and B, just like gennation has already pointed out. Let's say you're in the key of E, you'll find this chord at the 9th fret on the 2nd, 3rd and 4th strings. This will be a good place to land your phrases if you're playing a blues in E, you'll soon hear it. As for the key of E the rest of the blues scale can be played around this chord shape and for the IV and V changes you can locate the other two triads (frets 2 and 4 or 14 and 16). A good player to listen to, becasue he was so great, his blues playing is really authentic and most of his slide playing goes on on the top two strings so even though he's in open E you can duplicate most of his slide phrases (but not his rhythm stuff because you don't have that open chord to play with) is Tampa Red. Then you can move on to Earl Hooker who also played in standard.
Members booher Posted July 28, 2007 Members Posted July 28, 2007 Using the right finger for holding the slide can be a big part of the technique of getting everything to sound right. I think the other guys have been pretty good as far as the other tips go, though. I think a lot of it is going to see if you can find licks you like and practice them in a slide fashion.
Members jayhitz Posted July 30, 2007 Members Posted July 30, 2007 Listen to some Warren Haynes, with the Allman Bros and especially Gov't Mule. He almost always uses standard tuning, I think.
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