Members mthomps2 Posted May 14, 2008 Members Posted May 14, 2008 http://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Grimoire-Exercise-Book/dp/0825835658 I asked a guitar playing friend who has more physical skill than me to reccomend songs or give me excersices for chop building. He said this. Any thoughts? Please reply will be buying today if the book store has it and it doesnt suck...
Members JnBroadbent Posted May 14, 2008 Members Posted May 14, 2008 Just learn all your favorite songs.
Members mthomps2 Posted May 14, 2008 Author Members Posted May 14, 2008 I really didn't word what I was trying to say well and for that I apolagize. Basicly I'm looking for opinions on the book as a tool for working on picking accuracy, speed, and muscle memory. I can spell out most scales and arps on the fretboard, but I'm just a bad player when it comes to putting it all to practice. I think using excersices from a more knowledgeable source like a book would be far more efficient than inventing my own.
Members mugwump Posted May 14, 2008 Members Posted May 14, 2008 For what you describe as goals, I'd recommend this one:http://www.amazon.com/Speed-Mechanics-Lead-Guitar-Stetina/dp/0793509629
Members c+t in b Posted May 14, 2008 Members Posted May 14, 2008 i own that book (the excercise book) and i would say its a tremendous waste of time (Along with most of the books in Kadmons series.) Theyre good as an intro to scales and patterns but other than that i would sya not to waste your money honestly to get the most out of something like this (arpeggios and scales) i'd recommend joe charupakorns books which are slightly better versions of the same things. buy his scales book and his arpeggios book. it gives you common and not so common fingerings for all the widely used chords and scales. i usually try to work fingerings out myself but sometimes there are a few problems and i'll need ot reference the book. if youre really looking to have amazing melodic chops as a player i would recommend learning about throwing chromatic approach notes on arpeggios
Members jonPhillips Posted May 16, 2008 Members Posted May 16, 2008 i would recommend learning about throwing chromatic approach notes on arpeggios Certainly sounds interesting, but I have no idea of what you're talking about. Please could you (or someone else) explain this further?
Members mosiddiqi Posted May 16, 2008 Members Posted May 16, 2008 For what you describe as goals, I'd recommend this one:http://www.amazon.com/Speed-Mechanics-Lead-Guitar-Stetina/dp/0793509629 +1
Members c+t in b Posted May 16, 2008 Members Posted May 16, 2008 i actually went back and looked at this book and realized it could have merit if you havent gone through its ideas before. i was thinking of the joe charupakorn excercise book which i hate the basic thing in the excercise book by kadmon that is of interest is its a permutation of different type of coils or simple runs/excercises you can do with a scale. basically different ways to play a scale. the reason i denounced it was because its a purely diatonic major scale/pentatonic concept (in the book at least) where if you learned the concepts yourself, you wouldnt need the book the thing about chromaticism comes from the jazz world and would take too long to explain in detail here. basically its also a permutation study on every type of arpeggio using a chromatic approach note on every chord tone, one at a time and eventually combined
Members mthomps2 Posted May 18, 2008 Author Members Posted May 18, 2008 i own that book (the excercise book) and i would say its a tremendous waste of time (Along with most of the books in Kadmons series.) Theyre good as an intro to scales and patterns but other than that i would sya not to waste your moneyhonestly to get the most out of something like this (arpeggios and scales) i'd recommend joe charupakorns books which are slightly better versions of the same things. buy his scales book and his arpeggios book. it gives you common and not so common fingerings for all the widely used chords and scales. i usually try to work fingerings out myself but sometimes there are a few problems and i'll need ot reference the book.if youre really looking to have amazing melodic chops as a player i would recommend learning about throwing chromatic approach notes on arpeggios I know you mean well with this advice but you are going way out of conctext of the question. What I'm looking for is excersices that use the arp and scale shapes so that i can learn to play lines with them fast and accuratly. I don't need help figuring out the positions. I'm going to go check out that speed series book. Thank you for that.
Members c+t in b Posted May 18, 2008 Members Posted May 18, 2008 like i corrected myself. i was thinking of another book. this book will give you permutation studies on how to play the modes of the major and pentatonic scales. i.e. 1-3-2-3-5-4-6-5-7-6-8-7-2-1-3 etc. i dont think there are any arpeggios studies really. the charupakorn excercise book is full of that but i really dont think its worth the money but like i also said. if you can figure out the permutations yourself you wouldnt really need the book. it will give you some of the more classic speed runs that do sound like excercises unless played fast and not necessarily through the whole 2 octaves. if you know the arpeggios so well and want to get good melodic speed runs i still suggest chromatic approach notes in addition to this. it will make your lines sound less scalar
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