Members donut jones Posted July 15, 2008 Members Posted July 15, 2008 i just got into paco de lucia and oh holy {censored}. how do you do that?
Members sftsyh Posted July 15, 2008 Members Posted July 15, 2008 train your wrist by masturbating 7 times a day
Members fmw Posted July 15, 2008 Members Posted July 15, 2008 Spend a lifetime of practice and effort like he did.
Members 1001gear Posted July 15, 2008 Members Posted July 15, 2008 Rhetorical question I hope. Everybody is like Holy I just saw God play. Christ I don't have a prayer of playing like that. Well if somebody did it, it must be doable. If you just want to rave about something, you did that already. If you're serious, maybe what you Aspirers of the Kingdom need to do first is to learn how to practice; how to tackle ALL the steps IN SEQUENCE, mastering each one before moving on. If that means Frederick Noad beginner class, then that's how.
Members mcpepe Posted July 15, 2008 Members Posted July 15, 2008 Flamenco has been teached over the centurys the oral way. Now there are a few books about flamenco guitar, but it is not really the same thing. Flamenco guitarrist never used a sheet or score. In fact, Paco de Lucia doesn't know how to read a note in a pentagram. Flamenco is transmited in a more traditional way. I am not saying it cannot be done with books, but it is not the usual way of learning flamenco. Where are you from? Do you have access to a flamenco teacher?
Members donut jones Posted July 15, 2008 Author Members Posted July 15, 2008 i don't think there's any flamenco to be had near me. i looked up teachers yesterday and couldn't find anybody. also i move so often it's not very convenient anyway. i'm moving again in the next month or two probably. anyway, i can play the guitar in other styles and have enough of a base that if someone could point me in the right direction with regards to chord progressions or stylistic tips or anything, it would help.
Members Kuroyume Posted July 15, 2008 Members Posted July 15, 2008 Ah, Paco de Lucia. Amazing stuff, huh? You won't learn that from a book. You'll need a teacher and the proper Flamenco guitar - Yes, there are at least three flavors of acoustic nylon-string guitar: folk, classical, flamenco. Flamenco guitars have 'tap plates' which resemble a pick guard but it is for the tapping beats used by flamenco players.
Members donut jones Posted July 15, 2008 Author Members Posted July 15, 2008 i saw that in my limited research, along with rasguerdos and tremolo picking(whatever that's called). i'm more wondering about playing styles and chord/rhythm structures or anything along those lines. i'm trying to play along with pandora but obviously it's too complicated and since songs rarely repeat, it'll take a while to make headway.in any case, paco de lucia really seems to stand head and shoulders above everyone else both as a player and as a composer that i've heard so far. it just blew me away when i sat down and listened with some headphones.
Members sftsyh Posted July 15, 2008 Members Posted July 15, 2008 would you like me to send you some paco de lucia?
Members donut jones Posted July 15, 2008 Author Members Posted July 15, 2008 that or some hand cream.
Members sftsyh Posted July 15, 2008 Members Posted July 15, 2008 that or some hand cream. did you get my PM?
Members mcpepe Posted July 16, 2008 Members Posted July 16, 2008 If you like Paco de Lucia, take a look at Vicente Amigo (if you dont know who it is). You will like it too.
Members donut jones Posted July 17, 2008 Author Members Posted July 17, 2008 so... can anyone give me any tips on playing flamenco?
Members 1001gear Posted July 17, 2008 Members Posted July 17, 2008 Two.How well do you play now? and Brush up on your 6/8.
Members donut jones Posted July 17, 2008 Author Members Posted July 17, 2008 how well do i play now? that's a loaded question... somewhere between jimmy buffet and jimi hendrix, i'd guess. i've been playing 15 years and am pretty decent.
Members 1001gear Posted July 17, 2008 Members Posted July 17, 2008 Something here should be of help. I lack the bandwidth to sort it out.http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=flamenco+lessons&search_type=&aq=o
Members donut jones Posted July 17, 2008 Author Members Posted July 17, 2008 this place sure is helpful
Members 1001gear Posted July 17, 2008 Members Posted July 17, 2008 Well Flamenco, wadjuh expect. Me, summa the rhythms are interesting, and the finger picking can be amazing at times. That percussive onslaught approach kills it. It gets to sounding like a bad drummer but quick. That said maybe now you'll get the rebuttal crowd. lolz... And BTW, Frederick Noad might not be a bad idea...
Members donut jones Posted July 17, 2008 Author Members Posted July 17, 2008 maybe if i would have asked a shredder question, "how do i play downstroke power chords at 200bpm without getting my 80s hair caught in the strings?" i would have gotten your approval.oh well. the youtube link actually taught me that i already knew the rumba.
Members 1001gear Posted July 17, 2008 Members Posted July 17, 2008 No I'm anti shred as well. I might've explained what I know of rhythmic tech though. Google Sabicas and Montoya. I'm not particularly enamored of their playing but I'm told they ARE the old school. If you can't surf your way into some enlightenment then you shall be deemed hopeless
Members BryanMichael Posted July 17, 2008 Members Posted July 17, 2008 You have to sneak up on them- they are very fast with their long legs and quick beaks- so be careful. But they are easy to spot with their pink feathers!
Members Kuroyume Posted July 17, 2008 Members Posted July 17, 2008 And you still have to drill those darn holes in the neck to play them properly...
Members donut jones Posted July 17, 2008 Author Members Posted July 17, 2008 idiots you win. i'm in 4th grade.
Members Kuroyume Posted July 18, 2008 Members Posted July 18, 2008 Thank you. Thank you very much. Well, except for that divergence, I think that I expressed what is needed. Montoya, de Lucia, are playing in specific genres which require specific techniques. You will have a hard go at learning this by yourself. Best to find a teacher experienced (or, better yet, professional) in that technique to learn it properly. Ignore the static noise posted here otherwise (though I liked the reference to flamingos) . Ask 1001gear if he can even play Flamenco at that level - doubtfully. Not my thing either but follow your heart and ignore the detractors... I've heard so many dispersions hurled at various 'limited' playing techniques (classical is pure or blues is better than rock or shredding is masturbation and so on). Frag all! Play what you want and what others enjoy. Screw the purists.
Members 1001gear Posted July 18, 2008 Members Posted July 18, 2008 No need to ask. While I wouldn't knock the pursuit and accomplishment of such 'lofty' goals, I find the end product very often annoying if not laughable. I'd like to think that when I have attained virtuoso guitar chops, I will also have acquired musical brilliance and exquisite taste - notably lacking in generic instrumental masters. And until - if ever such time, I'll take the well turned pop tune with the killer guitar hooks every time. lolz...
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