Members evil toki Posted April 20, 2009 Members Posted April 20, 2009 Just curious. I mean the sales Pitch almost had me, but 100 some bones? Ouch. Figured I'd try to get some honest feedback on it. Thanks.
Members halfwhole Posted April 20, 2009 Members Posted April 20, 2009 the relative pitch one is excellent. although th eguy has areally irritating voice. he obviously has a good copywriter, but the perfect pitch course is like : listen to this Bb, hear how it's blue and goes wah wah wahnow listen to an F, hear how it's light blue and goes wee wee wee i think it's all bull{censored} TBH
Members guitaruboy Posted April 21, 2009 Members Posted April 21, 2009 eh i read the story the ad had and that made me realize i have perfect pitch already its pretty cool actually, very useful to have but i can't imagine a program really helping short of continously hearing the notes and remembering
Members Godsky Posted April 21, 2009 Members Posted April 21, 2009 I was sent it a long while back (perfect pitch) from a cousin in the U.S but never used it... i heard the 1st cd, and almost fell asleep...
Members adamgram Posted April 21, 2009 Members Posted April 21, 2009 Before you spend $100 on the video, if you haven't done so already learn relative pitch on your own. Start by downloading the program at the link below. It's free. It plays intervals at random and quizzes you on what they are. It's been amazingly helpful for me. There are some other things it does too. There really isn't much to 'learn' about how to acquire relative pitch, it just takes a lot of practice. That's why I'm skeptical of those videos. As for perfect pitch I don't really know if it's helpful or not. Honestly though I don't really see what the advantage is to having perfect pitch beyond a neat party trick. Relative pitch is the important part.http://www.solfege.org/
Members lollygag Posted April 23, 2009 Members Posted April 23, 2009 Perfect pitch cannot be learned just like people who are color blind cannot learn to see colors.
Members mikey4402 Posted April 23, 2009 Members Posted April 23, 2009 What is the diffrence between perfect pitch and realitive pitch? Is realitive pitch just identifying what a major 2nd ,perect 5th interval is?
Members Bedlum Bednarik Posted April 23, 2009 Members Posted April 23, 2009 What is the diffrence between perfect pitch and realitive pitch? Is realitive pitch just identifying what a major 2nd ,perect 5th interval is? I think relitive is the interval between two pitches and perfect is not having a note as a reference, just hearing a note and saing "yeah thats a B "
Members lollygag Posted April 23, 2009 Members Posted April 23, 2009 When you have perfect pitch it means that for you, each note has a distinct sound that is unique from every other, and just by hearing it you can immediately recognize it. Similar to how you can see a color and recognize it. If you have good relative pitch it means that given a reference pitch, you can identify other pitches comparatively. Oliver Sacks describes it well in his book, Musicophilia. Imagine somebody telling you that they are completely colorblind, but given one particular shade of gray they intuit what another one is by the difference between the shades. very interesting, isn't it?
Members Bedlum Bednarik Posted April 23, 2009 Members Posted April 23, 2009 When you have perfect pitch it means that for you, each note has a distinct sound that is unique from every other, and just by hearing it you can immediately recognize it. Similar to how you can see a color and recognize it. If you have good relative pitch it means that given a reference pitch, you can identify other pitches comparatively.Oliver Sacks describes it well in his book, Musicophilia. Imagine somebody telling you that they are completely colorblind, but given one particular shade of gray they intuit what another one is by the difference between the shades. very interesting, isn't it? What I wonder is , since we are the western world, how do these people hear some of the eastern 1/4 tone scales? Also, Ive read that having perfect pitch can be irritating for some, that it makes listening to some music, like pop or blues impossible to enjoy
Members lollygag Posted April 24, 2009 Members Posted April 24, 2009 Drawing again from Oliver Sacks, he mentions that it can be both cultural and (of course) personal taste. He also mentions something interesting, saying that some people he has interviewed with perfect pitch don't like to listen to songs outside of the original key, making jazz and blues, where there is frequent transposition, unbearable. what I wonder is: what about in classical music where the standard tuning in the 18th century was a little more than a half step flatter than it was today. for those of us with less "discriminating" ears, it doesn't make a different, but what about the supposed perfect pitch ears of composers like Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, et al.?
Members Knottyhed Posted April 27, 2009 Members Posted April 27, 2009 Perfect pitch cannot be learned just like people who are color blind cannot learn to see colors.Depends what you mean... I've been working on it recently. There's a program I've been using on the internet that plays random notes... started off trying to find 'em on the guitar first time. When I first started I was about 3-4 frets out if I was lucky, now I'm usually within half a step.Testing myself by guessing the notes without my guitar I've gone from getting next to nothing right to being right about 30% of the time - sounds crap, but statistically speaking I should be scoring 8-9%... I would assume that it I keep working on it I will get more accurate. No doubt once I've done 10,000 hours I will have perfect pitch
Members Knottyhed Posted April 27, 2009 Members Posted April 27, 2009 When you have perfect pitch it means that for you, each note has a distinct sound that is unique from every other, and just by hearing it you can immediately recognize it. Similar to how you can see a color and recognize it. If you have good relative pitch it means that given a reference pitch, you can identify other pitches comparatively.Oliver Sacks describes it well in his book, Musicophilia. Imagine somebody telling you that they are completely colorblind, but given one particular shade of gray they intuit what another one is by the difference between the shades. very interesting, isn't it? Yeh - that'd be a savant type ability, for some people music and colour are intrinsically linked (syntheasia) - hearing a note makes them see a colour, to an extent there's probably something similar going on in everyone's heads - ever fallen asleep listening to music and seen colour patterns? The thing is I'd argue that even that'd have to be learned, because who ever said that a concert 'A' was 440htz, why not 444, or 438? A person would have to subconsciously associate a certain frequency with a certain note. Whilst some people appear to have this ability naturally I don't think it's impossible to train a 'normal' persons ear to recognise notes to within a high degree of accuracy. That said, having extremely good relative pitch is (a) easier to acquire and (b) more important to have as a musician.
Members feralmusic Posted April 27, 2009 Members Posted April 27, 2009 you have a song in your head you know vey well.what's the key of that song, and what's the tonic (root note)?ie: thus spake zarathustra by richard strauss - (....C...G...C....CM / Cm...)now you have an internal reference note.when you hear a note and need to identify it, use your internal reference and go up or down by half steps until you get to the note you need to identify.hope this helped.
Members evil toki Posted May 1, 2009 Author Members Posted May 1, 2009 ::Suprised at number of replies:: I'll def check out the relative pitch, sounds more practical. Thanks for the help people! Rock on.
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