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There should be an overall tutorial on explaining the system, it's advantages and why a person should bother learning all that. It looks like it could be a good system but it takes a bit to get oriented.

 

The tie in with CAGED seems pretty abstract ... perhaps an explanation of the system would help me see the link.

 

The thing with CAGED is that the letters refer to actual chord shapes which most beginners already know - hence the simplicity.

 

This system may likely be better but it needs some help getting the concept across if you ask me.

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looks to be pretty much the same "system" as in the ever popular Guitar Fretboard Workout by Barrett Tagliarino. The website just uses a different naming convention. Guitar Fretboard Workout is a really good book

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From website:

 

 

This website is devoted to a revolutionary new guitar method...

 

 

How about this for a revolutionary fretboard learning concept:

 

LEARN YOUR NOTES!

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This doesn't look like a bad approach. Certainly knowing the octave shapes on the fretboard is pretty essential. I see the connection with Barrett's method, CAGED (which Barrett references), etc. But when it comes down to it, if you're using standard tuning, it's all the same fretboard. No method is going to be that revolutionary, because it's all describing the exact same thing.

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Between Caged Octaves and Scott Henderson, Henderson's book gives the reader much more usable information, especially chord construction. If you offer an information resource on chords for guitarists, you are doing a disservice if you omit chord construction, of which I could not find an example in Caged Octaves.

 

Chord construction is actually fairly easy to learn. It is not exactly quantum physics. No excuse to not teach it.

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seriously, most music theory is about as complex as 4th grade math. you just have to learn the notes on the fretboard and guitarists are so lazy, i bet if there was a magic pill that taught music theory, most guitarists would be like "meh, i'll take it tomorrow"

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guitarists are so lazy, i bet if there was a magic pill that taught music theory, most guitarists would be like "meh, i'll take it tomorrow"

 

 

Dunno, I'll think about it when I get out of bed...

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ha! No most of the would get drunk and lose the pill somewhere. Then tell you they didn't take the pill cause they are a "feel" player and that the pill was actually bad cause "great player x" never took the pill either : )

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True, Cm and Gm shape barre chords are
relatively
difficult to play. But they are still important to be able to visualize for use as arpeggios, smaller voicings, or extensions and alterations of the basic chords (provided you know a smidgeon of theory.)

:thu:

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Not that I'm a huge fan of Bill Edwards' Fretboard Logic, but at least Fretboard Logic shows where the Root, 3rd, and 5th are in each shape!

 

You gotta at least show that!

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The arpeggios(1, b3, 5) and Cm, Am, Gm, Em and Dm barre chords are all presented on www.cagedoctaves.dot as videos, pdf documents (chord/scale/arpeggio boxes, interval diagrams, fingering patterns, tablature and standard notation) and GuitarPro5 files; not ignored as has been suggested.

 

The point is that in the higher reaches of the fingerboard chords are difficult to play, but not impossible (see videos), hence the octave shapes are easier to play everwhere.

 

Additionally the chords or octaves are only an aide memoir (not an aim in themselves) when improvising lead guitar lines, the CAGED octaves method offers-up a skeleton upon which any type of harmonic/melodic information can be hung.

 

Thus, in essence, it is designed with speedy recall in mind for the improvising guitarist.

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