Members codecontra Posted December 25, 2009 Members Posted December 25, 2009 Is it really a C9? I thought a 9 chord had to have the 7th and then the 2nd degree of the scale, this just has the 2nd, no B. I could be wrong, that is why I am asking. http://www.schoolofpete.com/lesson-1/files/c9-chord.jpg
Poparad Posted December 25, 2009 Posted December 25, 2009 You're right. That would just be a very slimmed down Cadd9 chord, with the 5th missing (which is often an ok note to leave out). To truly be C9, as you said, it would need the b7.
Members paulinpoland Posted December 25, 2009 Members Posted December 25, 2009 The fifth, the G, is in there on the picture I looked at....third string, open. I agree that "C add 9" would be a better description of it. Although I feel there should be an 'X' marked on the low string, so it's not played. Rather clumsy, with an E in the bass, to say the least. A poor and misleading diagram, really.
Members lollygag Posted December 26, 2009 Members Posted December 26, 2009 Maybe they forgot to add a dot for the open G string. if I saw C9 in a chord chart I would assume it meant a dominant chord like this:----3--3--2--3----
Members codecontra Posted December 27, 2009 Author Members Posted December 27, 2009 Thanks everyone !
Members 3gstring Posted December 28, 2009 Members Posted December 28, 2009 This is just bad theory on the part of the person who made the chord chart. There's a big difference between a C9 - which is a dominant chord and has the 7th in it - and a Cadd9 or C(9) or Csus2 (it can be written all 3 ways) - which are all C major chords with the note D added to the chord but no 7th. The 3rd and the 7th are the two most determining degrees of a chord so it makes a big difference if the 7th is there or not.
Members Blackface Posted December 28, 2009 Members Posted December 28, 2009 This is just bad theory on the part of the person who made the chord chart. There's a big difference between a C9 - which is a dominant chord and has the 7th in it - and a Cadd9 or C(9) or Csus2 (it can be written all 3 ways) - which are all C major chords with the note D added to the chord but no 7th. The 3rd and the 7th are the two most determining degrees of a chord so it makes a big difference if the 7th is there or not. I think when you put the "sus" in, it is supposed to mean the third is replaced with that note. So sus 2 would be 1-2-5 rather than 1-3-5. But so many people write things so many different ways it's hard to know exactly what they mean.
Members 3gstring Posted December 28, 2009 Members Posted December 28, 2009 I think when you put the "sus" in, it is supposed to mean the third is replaced with that note. So sus 2 would be 1-2-5 rather than 1-3-5. But so many people write things so many different ways it's hard to know exactly what they mean. No, you're right. Technically a "sus" chord means the 3rd is suspended and replaced with the 4th or 2nd. But you'll still see "sus2" written for this chord a lot of times even though the E is being played on the 4th string.
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