Members Muckbound Posted January 7, 2010 Members Posted January 7, 2010 The major scale formula is wwhwwwh. I can do this in all keys. Can someone tell me the formula for minor scales? Thanks a lot.
Members amnesiac Posted January 7, 2010 Members Posted January 7, 2010 generally the third defines minor/major. In the case of the major scale just start on the 2nd, 3rd or 6th note and you will have a minor scale.. Of course there are plenty of other minor scales but that should get you started.
Poparad Posted January 7, 2010 Posted January 7, 2010 The major scale formula is wwhwwwh. I can do this in all keys. Can someone tell me the formula for minor scales? Thanks a lot. Just shift the pattern over two notes to the right. In other words, make the 6th note of the major scale the 1st note of the minor scale: Major: 1 w 2 w 3 h 4 w 5 w 6 w 7 h 1 shift it over: 6 w 7 h 1 w 2 w 3 h 4 w 5 w 6 Renumber it: 1 w 2 h b3 w 4 w 5 h b6 w b7 w 1 Alternatively, if you know the major scale well, just use this: 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7 1 The numbers 1-7 represent their normal spot in the major scale. For example, 2 is usually a whole step above 1, and 3 is a whole step after that. For the minor scale, 2 is the same, but 3 is only a half step after 2, so it's written as "b3" ("flat three"). 4 and 5 are the same as they are in the major scale, and 6 and 7 are both a half step lower, so they're b6 and b7. You can extend this to any scale to speed up the process of learning a new one just by changing notes to the major scale, which presumably you already know well enough.
Members guitarded84 Posted January 9, 2010 Members Posted January 9, 2010 In the key of C Major, the relative minor is a minor. It's found by going down a minor third which is a step and a half. This is done the same way in all keys. Every minor has three forms natural, harmonic, and melodic. The natural is played the same as C major but from a to a. In harmonic form the 7th scale degree is raised by a half step. In melodic form the 6th and 7th are raised by a half step on the way up the scale and lower back down a half step on the way down the scale.
Members Muckbound Posted January 14, 2010 Author Members Posted January 14, 2010 Just shift the pattern over two notes to the right. In other words, make the 6th note of the major scale the 1st note of the minor scale:Major:1 w 2 w 3 h 4 w 5 w 6 w 7 w 1shift it over:6 w 7 h 1 w 2 w 3 h 4 w 5 w 6Renumber it:1 w 2 h b3 w 4 w 5 h b6 w b7 w 1Alternatively, if you know the major scale well, just use this:1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7 1The numbers 1-7 represent their normal spot in the major scale. For example, 2 is usually a whole step above 1, and 3 is a whole step after that. For the minor scale, 2 is the same, but 3 is only a half step after 2, so it's written as "b3" ("flat three"). 4 and 5 are the same as they are in the major scale, and 6 and 7 are both a half step lower, so they're b6 and b7. You can extend this to any scale to speed up the process of learning a new one just by changing notes to the major scale, which presumably you already know well enough. I understand this but I have one question. Why is the second note not minor? I followed a link in the sticky thread called Ibreathmusic and it explained it the same except the second note was a minor. The first, fourth, fifth and eighth(octave)are perfect and never change.
Moderators Jed Posted January 14, 2010 Moderators Posted January 14, 2010 I understand this but I have one question. Why is the second note not minor? Because the minor formula is: W H W W H W W Also described as: 1 2 b3 4 5 b6 b7 1 (compared to the major scale built off the same root)
Members Muckbound Posted January 15, 2010 Author Members Posted January 15, 2010 So would this be correct for the c minor scale: c, d, d#, e#, g, g#, a#, c I think it's right according to your formula:)
Members bigboy_78 Posted January 15, 2010 Members Posted January 15, 2010 So would this be correct for the c minor scale: c, d, d#, e#, g, g#, a#, cI think it's right according to your formula:) Yep that looks right but it looks better like this: C D Eb F G Ab Bb C You only want each letter once, and try to avoid using E# or B# in most cases.
Members Muckbound Posted January 15, 2010 Author Members Posted January 15, 2010 Yep that looks right but it looks better like this: C D Eb F G Ab Bb C You only want each letter once, and try to avoid using E# or B# in most cases. Oops, my bad:facepalm: Thanks, now I can write all 12 of these out and play the crap out of them.
Members clickonce Posted January 15, 2010 Members Posted January 15, 2010 Just shift the pattern over two notes to the right. In other words, make the 6th note of the major scale the 1st note of the minor scale:Major:1 w 2 w 3 h 4 w 5 w 6 w 7 w 1 Shouldn't that be:1 w 2 w 3 h 4 w 5 w 6 w 7 h 1 ??
Poparad Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Shouldn't that be:1 w 2 w 3 h 4 w 5 w 6 w 7 h 1?? Yes, typo.
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