Members Virgman Posted January 12, 2010 Members Posted January 12, 2010 ...playing something a million times.
Members sweeptehsweepz Posted January 13, 2010 Members Posted January 13, 2010 or transcribing said something and not learning it from a tab
Members gennation Posted January 13, 2010 Members Posted January 13, 2010 Even if man never learns by repetition, he'll always remember. Without repetition, man only vaguely remembers, or forgets completely.
Members Jasco Posted January 13, 2010 Members Posted January 13, 2010 Whenever a student of mine complains that something is too difficult, I'll reply: "only the first million times, then it gets easy." Of course they'll laugh a little bit at that. To which I respond: "You think I'm joking, don't you."
Members gennation Posted January 13, 2010 Members Posted January 13, 2010 On the flip side though... When improv'ing you want to go in new territories...other wise you're not really improv'ing but just rehashing the same old repetitive, or "comfortable" is a better word for it, licks. As a practicing improviser you should give equal time to repetition but also playing things you've never played before and ONLY following you ears, hands, and heart. The repetition is what builds the techniques and dexterity's to get to where you're going when you're going some place you've never been before.
Members TrickyBoy Posted January 13, 2010 Members Posted January 13, 2010 ...playing something a million times. I think you need to insert "correctly" or "properly" or "with the right technique" in there somewhere. But I get your point.
Members Virgman Posted January 13, 2010 Author Members Posted January 13, 2010 I think you need to insert "correctly" or "properly" or "with the right technique" in there somewhere. But I get your point. If you play it a million times it will become "right".
Moderators Jed Posted January 13, 2010 Moderators Posted January 13, 2010 Whenever a student of mine complains that something is too difficult, I'll reply: "only the first million times, then it gets easy."Of course they'll laugh a little bit at that.To which I respond: "You think I'm joking, don't you." Is this where the evil laugh sound-byte comes in?
Members BydoEmpire Posted January 13, 2010 Members Posted January 13, 2010 If you play it a million times it will become "right".I agree broadly there's no substitute for hours on the fretboard, but I disagree that if you just do someting enough times you'll magically get it right. You have to practice it right to be able to play it right. Sure you might get lucky and figure out what's wrong, and eventually get it right. But you might not... you might just be really good at playing it wrong/sloppy, because you'll have burned it into your mind and hands that way. Even after a million times you still might not be able to play it the way you want or the way it should be. I think it's better to play it *correctly* half a million times.
Members Virgman Posted January 13, 2010 Author Members Posted January 13, 2010 Sorry, what I say goes. You'll just have to accept it.
Members lollygag Posted January 13, 2010 Members Posted January 13, 2010 Practice makes perfect, right? WRONG perfect practice makes perfect. If you play something a million times and always make the same mistake then how much progress have you made?
Members gennation Posted January 13, 2010 Members Posted January 13, 2010 perfect practice makes perfect. Are you sure you weren't one of my students? I use that line all the time.
Members jonPhillips Posted January 13, 2010 Members Posted January 13, 2010 Sorry, what I say goes. You'll just have to accept it. It's the law.
Members lollygag Posted January 13, 2010 Members Posted January 13, 2010 Are you sure you weren't one of my students? I use that line all the time. hehe, I got that line in 4th grade from a substitute gym teacher showing us how to do free throws in basketball. For some reason it has stuck with me all these years. Are you my 4th grade substitute gym teacher?
Members Virgman Posted January 13, 2010 Author Members Posted January 13, 2010 Practicing make perfect...perfect makes practicing...perfect practice makes practice...practice practicing perfect makes... I'm confused! A million times!
Members bigboy_78 Posted January 13, 2010 Members Posted January 13, 2010 That's what I need to do...practice practicing.
Members paulinpoland Posted January 13, 2010 Members Posted January 13, 2010 I agree with everything!Is that clear enough ?
Members lollygag Posted January 13, 2010 Members Posted January 13, 2010 I need to perfect a million. Wait... what?
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